• Competitor rules

    Please remember that any mention of competitors, hinting at competitors or offering to provide details of competitors will result in an account suspension. The full rules can be found under the 'Terms and Rules' link in the bottom right corner of your screen. Just don't mention competitors in any way, shape or form and you'll be OK.

AMD Zen 5 rumours

humbug said:
In R24 its 46% faster MT than a 7950X, 2052 vs 3000
42% faster in ST, 120 vs 170.

IMO that's too high, i'm thinking 20%, Mores Law insists on 13 to 15% and thinks that's good, its less than from Zen 2 to Zen 3 and Zen 3 to Zen 4. He also thinks Intel absolutely will be +40%, IMO he has some bias there.... He has a habit of taking anything Intel employees tell him as absolute fact, no matter how many times it turns out wrong.

But 40% is not impossible or unpresidented for AMD.
Click to expand...
I suspect the 40% number is true but it will be for AI related tasks, I doubt we will get that in games.
 
From the leaks, it looks like AVX and INT performance is getting a big boost so things like Cinebench could get a 40%+ bump. Most things will probably see < 20%. CPU limited games that use AVX could also do well, but most are not that CPU heavy. Just fixing all the Zen4 security issues could make Zen5 5-10% faster than Zen4.
 
FredFlint said:
From the leaks, it looks like AVX and INT performance is getting a big boost so things like Cinebench could get a 40%+ bump. Most things will probably see < 20%. CPU limited games that use AVX could also do well, but most are not that CPU heavy. Just fixing all the Zen4 security issues could make Zen5 5-10% faster than Zen4.
Click to expand...

What issues?
 
Audioboxer said:
Nice, looks like I'll be holding onto the De8auer delidding tool for a bit longer lol.

Now to wait for 3D cache, presumably early 2025.
Click to expand...

I'm hoping they might reduced the 'delay' before the X3D chips appear, simply because the Zen4 X3D parts are likely to be better gaming performers than the Zen5 non-X3D parts which won't exactly encourage upgrades.
 
Vertigo said:
I'm hoping they might reduced the 'delay' before the X3D chips appear, simply because the Zen4 X3D parts are likely to be better gaming performers than the Zen5 non-X3D parts which won't exactly encourage upgrades.
Click to expand...
New rumours claim AMD increases base cache amounts in all Ryzen 9k SKUs, so x3D might not be needed or won't be as much of a jump in gaming anymore.
 
Tinek said:
New rumours claim AMD increases base cache amounts in all Ryzen 9k SKUs, so x3D might not be needed or won't be as much of a jump in gaming anymore.
Click to expand...

It will not be significant increase if it's not vcache, takes up too much space, memory stopped scaling ages ago, am5 is a tiny chip and ryzen 9000 is on a slightly better node than 7000, ergo there is no space for a major improvement in cache for non cache models
 
Last edited:
Grim5 said:
It will not be significant increase if it's vcache, takes up too much space
Click to expand...
Time will show what it will actually do, but that could be part of the "40%" increase, as supposedly it's all levels of cache increase. Seems they used silicon savings on lower process to cram in more cache instead of more cores.

Anyway, just a rumour at this stage, not much confirmed info out there yet.
 
Last edited:
ChipHell are one of the ones who usually get it right.

Strix Halo.
AI APU
Zen 5 / RDNA 3.5.
16c 32t.

The GPU is much more interesting but lets go with the CPU first.

ST R23: 2480, that's 20.5% faster than a 7950X
MT R23: 42000, that's 10% faster than a 7950X
Impressive stuff for an APU but don't expect the Desktop variant to be much better.

NPU (AI engine) 45 to 50 TOPS

GPU:
40 RDNA 3.5 CU's (RX 6750 XT)
Memory: 256Bit LPDDR5X Bandwidth -500 GB/s

Time SPy: 13,000 ( RTX 4060 Ti 16GB = 13,365)
Port Royal: 6,500
-------------------
RTX 4060: 6,050
RTX 4060 Ti 16GB: 7,800
RX 7700 XT: 9,039
RX 7800 XT: 10,272

My score 24/7 score RX 7800 XT: 11,523.

The iGPU is impressive, its a Desktop 4060 Ti. AMD have finally made a properly powerful APU.


AMD-STRIX-HALO-1.png


AMD-STRIX-HALO-1.png


videocardz.com

AMD "Strix Halo" Zen5 & RDNA3.5 premium APU rumors take shape - VideoCardz.com

AMD first ultra-high-end APU with 16 Zen5 cores and 40 RDNA3.5 CUs is said to feature LPDDR5X memory Recent leaks and speculation were put together by Chiphell forum member. AMD is said to be launching its Strix Halo APUs next year. It’s one of the most interesting hardware releases from AMD in...
videocardz.com videocardz.com
 
Last edited:
humbug said:
ChipHell are one of the ones who usually get it right.

Strix Halo.
AI APU
Zen 5 / RDNA 3.5.
16c 32t.

The GPU is much more interesting but lets go with the CPU first.

ST R23: 2480, that's 20.5% faster than a 7950X
MT R23: 42000, that's 10% faster than a 7950X
Impressive stuff for an APU but don't expect the Desktop variant to be much better.

NPU (AI engine) 45 to 50 TOPS

GPU:
40 RDNA 3.5 CU's (RX 6750 XT)
Memory: 256Bit LPDDR5X Bandwidth -500 GB/s

Time SPy: 13,000 ( RTX 4060 Ti 16GB = 13,365)
Port Royal: 6,500
-------------------
RTX 4060: 6,050
RTX 4060 Ti 16GB: 7,800
RX 7700 XT: 9,039
RX 7800 XT: 10,272

My score 24/7 score RX 7800 XT: 11,523.

The iGPU is impressive, its a Desktop 4060 Ti. AMD have finally made a properly powerful APU.


AMD-STRIX-HALO-1.png


AMD-STRIX-HALO-1.png


videocardz.com

AMD "Strix Halo" Zen5 & RDNA3.5 premium APU rumors take shape - VideoCardz.com

AMD first ultra-high-end APU with 16 Zen5 cores and 40 RDNA3.5 CUs is said to feature LPDDR5X memory Recent leaks and speculation were put together by Chiphell forum member. AMD is said to be launching its Strix Halo APUs next year. It’s one of the most interesting hardware releases from AMD in...
videocardz.com videocardz.com
Click to expand...
That memory bandwidth is nice! Desktop will get nowhere near that, even if they did quad channel (not going to happen). Hope they do a desktop APU with on-package RAM, will be better than the non-APU versions.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom