AMD Zen 6 rumours

[Raiden85]

I agree we don't need that kind of MT performance on gaming desktops, the 24c zen6 and 52c novalake chip appear to be just be circle jerk parts to try and one up each other for no real benefit to gamers

But it's still nice to have it when you need it. While my 7950X3D spends 95% of its time playing games or watching videos, it's so nice to have when I want lots of cores for things like video AI upscaling hundreds of old TV episodes on my Plex server that have never been remastered for 1080p Blu-ray, let alone 4K, so I did it myself. While this is primarily GPU-intensive, it does use every CPU thread I can throw at it, along with using my 4090 running at full load.

So I can't wait to just throw in a Zen 6 CPU into my board to get even more MT performance.

 

[jigger]

WTF tech claiming Zen 6 beats Zen 5 clocked at 2ghz.

 

[Nutty667]

That might be more that the base clock was 2Ghz, but it has boost of 5.37Ghz

AMD Zen 6 Medusa Point APU Posts Fastest x86 Mobile Geekbench Single-Core Score Yet

AMD's upcoming Zen 6-based Medusa Point mobile platform has appeared in Geekbench once again, and the latest engineering sample delivers its strongest performance yet.

www.guru3d.com

 

[Grim5]

Hard to trust pre release software, they can often read clocks incorrectly on engineering sample hardware because they haven't been updated for the new chips

So I'd take the 2ghz clock speed with a giant grain of salt

 

[Troezar]

Looks like there may be a sizeable upgrade to my 7600 coming. Need a GPU worthy of it first though...

 

[jigger]

Looks like there may be a sizeable upgrade to my 7600 coming. Need a GPU worthy of it first though...

At the highest end maybe 6x the performance, which is pretty spectacular in only two generations and on the same platform.

 

[Troezar]

At the highest end maybe 6x the performance, which is pretty spectacular in only two generations and on the same platform.

Almost like the old days when your PC was obsolete in 6 months

 

[Robba44]

WTF tech claiming Zen 6 beats Zen 5 clocked at 2ghz.

A power increase of that magnitude?? It's inconceivable.

 

[FredFlint]

It depends how AMD's new chips scales with frequency. AMD's old chips(A64) had much lower frequency than Intel's(2Ghz vs 3Ghz) but had similar or better performance. The top of the frequency scale does not always bring the same amount of performance for most things, it does add lots of extra power usage though. I think 50% better vs 7x chips + lower power would be good. Add the extra cores and instruction and that's a sweet chip (if priced well).

 

[eeii]

High clock speeds. I'll buy that for a dollar.

Huge Gains! - 5+ GHz AMD Zen 6 EPYC CPUs confirmed - OC3D

The next generation of AMD EPYC CPUs will feature massive clock-speed gains (5+ GHz), signalling significant single-threaded gains.

overclock3d.net

 

[Troezar]

It's looking very promising. Just need similar gains in the GPU world. I see there is more dedicated AI hardware coming.

 

[jigger]

5ghz+ on a 192c and 384t is pretty bonkers and bodes pretty well for Ryzen clock speeds. 6ghz+ for the desktop parts?

 

[Nutty667]

Loads of AMD news this morning.

256 Core EPIC Zen 6 cpu shown off.

AMD Shows 256-Core Zen 6 EPYC Venice Flagship Server Processor

AMD has showcased the flagship configuration of its upcoming EPYC Venice processor family, providing another look at the company's next-generation Zen 6 server architecture.

www.guru3d.com

AMD Roadmap to Zen7 and Zen8 and timescales;

AMD Maps EPYC and Instinct Generations Through 2030 With Zen 8

AMD has extended its server processor roadmap through 2030 while outlining annual Instinct accelerator updates through 2028.Presented at the end of Advancing AI 2026, the schedule introduces several CPU, accelerator, networking and rack-system codenames that will follow the current EPYC Venice...

www.guru3d.com

I think it's the 96 core Venice-X which goes over 5Ghz.

AMD EPYC Venice-X Gets 96 Zen 6 Cores, 1.15GB 3D V-Cache and 5.15GHz Boost

AMD has disclosed the first substantial specifications for Venice-X, the high-performance computing derivative of its sixth-generation EPYC processor family. Scheduled for the second half of 2027, Venice-X combines 96 Zen 6 cores with 1,152MB of L3 cache and boost frequencies reaching 5.

www.guru3d.com

 

[Absolutely Clueless]

5ghz+ on a 192c and 384t is pretty bonkers and bodes pretty well for Ryzen clock speeds. 6ghz+ for the desktop parts?

Hope so! Bring on the 10800X3D (and the 4K 360hz QD-OLED monitor)!

 

[Grim5]

Hope so! Bring on the 10800X3D (and the 4K 360hz QD-OLED monitor)!

Don't you mean 480hz?

HDMI 2.2 supports 4K 480hz

 

[Armageus]

I think it's the 96 core Venice-X which goes over 5Ghz.

AMD EPYC Venice-X Gets 96 Zen 6 Cores, 1.15GB 3D V-Cache and 5.15GHz Boost

AMD has disclosed the first substantial specifications for Venice-X, the high-performance computing derivative of its sixth-generation EPYC processor family. Scheduled for the second half of 2027, Venice-X combines 96 Zen 6 cores with 1,152MB of L3 cache and boost frequencies reaching 5.

www.guru3d.com

I think you are probably right - the existing Microsoft HX VM's are 24-176 vCPUs using EPYC 9V33X (which is a 96 core part).

vCPUs don't have to map to physical cores either, could just as easily be mapping to the logical cpus and leaving a few spare for host management etc.


Actual Microsoft blog and quote:

Microsoft expands Azure AI and HPC infrastructure with AMD - The Official Microsoft Blog

AI workloads are scaling faster than any single infrastructure approach can support — with more models, new agent-driven workloads and surging compute demand driving the need for greater specialization across the stack. To meet this need, Microsoft continues to evolve Azure’s infrastructure...

blogs.microsoft.com

HXv2 virtual machines build on and extend the strengths of HX. They both continue the differentiation Azure offers for RTL simulation workloads by again employing 3D V-cache technology, while offering significant improvements to single threaded performance and memory. HXv2 VMs will feature 176 AMD 6th Gen EPYC CPU cores with a clock frequency of more than 5 GHz, 50% more addressable cache per core and VM sizes with nearly 2 or 4 terabytes of RAM, helping customers optimize their workloads to memory needs.

Existing HX family specification

HX sub-family VM size series - Azure Virtual Machines

Overview of the 'HX' sub-family of virtual machine sizes

learn.microsoft.com

Part	Quantity Count Units	Specs SKU ID, Performance Units, etc.
Processor	24 - 176 vCPUs	AMD EPYC 9V33X (Genoa-X) [x86-64]
L3 Cache	2304 MB
Memory	1408 GB	780 GB/s
Local Storage	1 Temp Disk 2 NVMe Disks	480 GiB 1800 GiB
Remote Storage	32 Disks
Network	8 vNICs 1 InfiniBand NDR NIC	80 Gb/s 400 Gb/s
Accelerators	None

5ghz+ on a 192c and 384t is pretty bonkers and bodes pretty well for Ryzen clock speeds. 6ghz+ for the desktop parts?

Nowhere in the article does it mention a 5Ghz+ 192c part.

 

[Absolutely Clueless]

Don't you mean 480hz?

HDMI 2.2 supports 4K 480hz

This higher refresh 4k OLED monitor, to make use of the increase CPU power. A 4k 480hz monitor won’t exist for a few years if i had to guess.

MSI Unveil The World's First 32" 4K 360Hz QD-OLED Monitor, with 'Triple-Mode' Support - TFTCentral

Share this contentMSI are set to debut their new Triple-Mode gaming monitor at Computex 2026 next week. The MPG OLED 322URDX36 powerhouse will feature a brand-new panel from Samsung Display....[click link for more]

tftcentral.co.uk

 

[Grim5]

This higher refresh 4k OLED monitor, to make use of the increase CPU power. A 4k 480hz monitor won’t exist for a few years if i had to guess.

MSI Unveil The World's First 32" 4K 360Hz QD-OLED Monitor, with 'Triple-Mode' Support - TFTCentral

Share this contentMSI are set to debut their new Triple-Mode gaming monitor at Computex 2026 next week. The MPG OLED 322URDX36 powerhouse will feature a brand-new panel from Samsung Display....[click link for more]

tftcentral.co.uk

4K 480hz monitors will probably be end of next year, wait to see if CES 2027 has any information

 

[Grim5]

AMD says

Zen 8 coming in 2030

AMD Zen 7 "2028" and Zen 8 "2030" CPU Architectures Confirmed - EPYC Florence "Zen 7" To Feature Next-Gen Node, DDR6 Memory & ACE Extensions

AMD has officially confirmed its next-generation Zen 7 and Zen 8 CPU architectures, which arrive in EPYC Florence and EPYC Ravenna chips.

wccftech.com

 

[jigger]

Nowhere in the article does it mention a 5Ghz+ 192c part.

Not sure what you’re getting at or point you’re attempting to make.

192c384t will almost certainly be the top system config and what I’ll be looking at on release.