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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

I don't know then....

Technically not in vid but caught on camera . Causing a bit of a fuss on a certain forum that that the guy got banned from AMD events . they've blown image up cought on camera. Messeed with it and believe that the samples rate is set to 100 . Even at the settings they state it's at it don't match what the CPU's scored on stage.

If I run it as what the file defaults too my 4790 take 59.75.

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The simple fact that people have spent the last 18hrs talking mostly about Blender and Zen's performance is still unclear should be enough to set alarm bells ringing. Why are AMD giving so little away?
 
Technically not in vid but caught on camera . Causing a bit of a fuss on a certain forum that that the guy got banned from AMD events . they've blown image up cought on camera. Messeed with it and believe that the samples rate is set to 100 . Even at the settings they state it's at it don't match what the CPU's scored on stage.

If I run it as what the file defaults too my 4790 take 59.75.

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Why would he do something like that? Intel shill seeding doubts?
 
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The simple fact that people have spent the last 18hrs talking mostly about Blender and Zen's performance is still unclear should be enough to set alarm bells ringing. Why are AMD giving so little away?

Another AMD detractor, hey you get what you get given, and that's Intel taking a good kicking. Roll on 2017 year of Zen.
 
Edit ^^^^ there could be very legitimate reasons for that, improvements with things like this don't necessarily = performance, there could be improvements to the render output which may result in a balance of better quality vs longer render time.
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Blender is far from crap, its also a crucial tool to a huge number of people, its the goto tool to an entire sector of the market, one that we here talking about gaming benefit from.

Go to and 3D and 2D forum and say Blender is crap you'll get kicked out :D
 
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Technically not in vid but caught on camera . Causing a bit of a fuss on a certain forum that that the guy got banned from AMD events . they've blown image up cought on camera. Messeed with it and believe that the samples rate is set to 100 . Even at the settings they state it's at it don't match what the CPU's scored on stage.

If I run it as what the file defaults too my 4790 take 59.75.

Sorry, not understanding what this means or what's being suggested.
Can you elaborate?
 
Sorry, not understanding what this means or what's being suggested.
Can you elaborate?

As i understand it someone took a high res photo of the render in action, blew it up and doctored it to look like AMD were cheating, like they had set the AMD chip to cycle 100 renders and a much higher number (200) on the Intel chip.

Basically trolling, or a paid Intel shill put there to try and seed doubt on its performance and make AMD look like liars.
 
On the video looks identicle numbers to me either side. What are you looking for exactly?

The only thing I DO notice is the numbers are different to the file you download of their site. Although only marginally.
 
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Thats a fairly normal tactic in any walk of life to try and discredit your opposition...

Im still optimistic that RyZen will be a decent upgrade for me on my 4770k! :)

Coming to realise that is why i don't trust GPU reviewers who don't publish their benchmarking methods and only publish slides, which these days is nearly all mainstream reviewers.

There was a time when they all detailed how they benchmark so you can replicate what they did, some even had video examples, not now, its all a bit shady now.
 
AMD don't really have anything to gain tho by cheating. The chips are not in the market the day after the event so : cheating' won't impact sales.

They know that people will benchmark then when they release. No point cheating to be honest.

If their poor people won't buy, if they are good and priced competitively people will buy.
 
AMD don't really have anything to gain tho by cheating. The chips are not in the market the day after the event so : cheating' won't impact sales.

They know that people will benchmark then when they release. No point cheating to be honest.

If their poor people won't buy, if they are good and priced competitively people will buy.

+1

As optomistic as i am, until we see them in the hands of reviewers we wont actually know real world performance, and even then how do you know to trust a reviewer to not tilt the test one way or other to skew results? Only way to really get a good idea is multiple results and to see it first hand yourself from friends etc.

Ontop of that is also price, RyZen's future relies on its performance and its price, if either is wrong it wont help AMD at all, but most importantly the performance needs to be the biggest factor, you can always lower prices if you come in too high, you cant up performance if its not there to be gained.
 
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