*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

[StarShock]

Yeah, we might see a small drop in Intel price this generation if AMD do manage to match them in performance and undercut them in price, as Intel are likely to just lean into the "we're the premium option" mind set.

It would take AMD actually beating them in the market over the next year before Intel drastically react unfortunately.

But hey. Assuming AMD pull it off, we can all just buy their stuff

 

[humbug]

Yeah, we might see a small drop in Intel price this generation if AMD do manage to match them in performance and undercut them in price, as Intel are likely to just lean into the "we're the premium option" mind set.

It would take AMD actually beating them in the market over the next year before Intel drastically react unfortunately.

But hey. Assuming AMD pull it off, we can all just buy their stuff

But hey. Assuming AMD pull it off, we can all just buy their stuff

Exactly, I have a 4690K right now, i will buy from whoever offers me the best bang for my £, AMD or Intel the colour is irrelevant.

 

[Emlyn_Dewar]

Recent Fedora looks OK (not used Linux in several years though so not kept up with happenings)...

ArsTechnica review

OT but I installed this on on a Dell E6420 the other day for a play around.
Took a good while to install but that may have been my archaic USB 2.0 drive's fault.

No nonsense operating system. Looks nice, seems easy to use for the things I'd use an old laptop for (internet, office apps).
Korora 25 looks like it'd be a good dist for a non-tech savvy end user.

 

[d_brennen]

Even the 8-10 core Intel CPUs are tiny in size compared to older generation quads. That Chipzilla has had yield issues does not bode well for AMD. Maybe GloFo has some secret sauce... history does not suggest this is the case, however. Zen+ is supposed to be even more ambitious, 7nm!

 

[humbug]

Chipzilla?

 

[Orangey]

The "secret sauce" is the fact they are using an actually competent company's tech and still have a 20nm-class BEOL unlike Intel.

Etching xtors is one thing but you still have to connect them up in an integrated circuit.

 

[d_brennen]

Chipzilla?

Intel

 

[humbug]

oh.....

 

[Harlequin]

i feel for socket 1150 users - haswell is all they can get now

 

[d_brennen]

i feel for socket 1150 users - haswell is all they can get now

AMD dispose of sockets just as casually as Intel

 

[Harlequin]

AMD dispose of sockets just as casually as Intel

how many amd sockets have had just 1 line of cpu for them

 

[Martini1991]

how many amd sockets have had just 1 line of cpu for them

A lot of the APU stuff had this.
There's so much ignorance towards AMD with sockets.
Am3 was a sham, had no exclusive CPU, then AM3+ just turned up, no CPU's specifically for it. When they did come they were crap and you were stuck.
Then it's been left to rot since 2012.

Also, 1150 was Broadwell wasn't it? So it had 2 lines.

Also, woe is me being stuck on Haswell, I've enjoyed stellar performance for 3 years!

 

[Armageus]

how many amd sockets have had just 1 line of cpu for them

Technically 1150 didn't though, did it?

Haswell
Haswell Refresh (Devils Canyon)
Broadwell (5675C and 5775C) - whilst limited in availability, they did actually happen.

 

[Harlequin]

A lot of the APU stuff had this.
There's so much ignorance towards AMD with sockets.
Am3 was a sham, had no exclusive CPU, then AM3+ just turned up, being put out to die basically since 2012

FM1 had llano (prototype apu really) , but FM2 onwards had multiple APU`s. Intel only having 1 cpu for a socket isn't exactly unknown.

AMD binned the 1000 series chipset before it was released ; a new chipset would have given better life to the platform. AM3 cpu`s were backwards compatible to the AM2 range until the FX chips turned up, which then were AM3 / AM3+ only

 

[Harlequin]

Technically 1150 didn't though, did it?

Haswell
Haswell Refresh (Devils Canyon)
Broadwell (5675C and 5775C) - whilst limited in availability, they did actually happen.

ANd if you read what I put:

i feel for socket 1150 users - haswell is all they can get now

can get now is the caveat....

haswell refresh is still haswell - and broadwell - , cant find it anywhere.

never said 5770c didn't happen - hence the cant get now

 

[Martini1991]

Fx stuff was officially AM3+ only.
Pretty sure fm2 got killed off just as easy as fm1.
Fm2+ is where it all went.

Also. It was very rare for AM2 boards to be able to use AM3 chips.
AM2+ boards sure. But not AM2

 

[Martini1991]

Poor AM3+ owners, all they can get is Piledriver.

 

[Harlequin]

Fx stuff was officially AM3+ only.
Pretty sure fm2 got killed off just as easy as fm1.
Fm2+ is where it all went.

A10-5800k > A10-6800K were FM2 , A107870K (current range ) is FM2+

FM2 will work in FM2+ boards , but not the other way around

 

[Armageus]

ANd if you read what I put:

can get now is the caveat....

haswell refresh is still haswell - and broadwell - , cant find it anywhere.

never said 5770c didn't happen - hence the cant get now

Haswell refresh isn't Haswell though is it? It was enough of a respin that it got it's own name whether you acknowledge it as Devil's Canyon or not.

Broadwell can still be sourced if you are desperate for it.

Skylake has been out for over 18 months (aug 2015 release?), so the fact you can still buy any 1150 chips is surely unexpected good news for owners of the platform.

 

[Martini1991]

Richland was pretty much a none event.

Your AMD bias/Intel hate is absolutely rife.