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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***
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Soldato
I don't think this was meant to be marketing material. It looks like the video was comissioned by AMD HR as a way of supporting it's LBGT employees.
Soldato
They're all doing it. It's all about public image, it just turns out that other companies did it better lol.
Soldato
You really think that? In the United Kingdom, you are entitled to 28 days annual paid leave by law. In the United States, you are entitled to none.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_annual_leave_by_country
But hey, maybe slaves get all the holidays.
And as a contractor who isn't entitled to paid holidays, I rather prefer to earn more than twice as much than a permanent employee of the same position, and having not to be paid for my holidays.
Is just simple arithmetic.
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Soldato
Oh FFS
For you to stop suffering like that
you should sell everything, move to a cave, and live by your own means. Everything you see around you have been manufactured by all sorts of people. You do not know who picked your vegetables and made your food, who build your house and car, or produced the electricity and clothes.
<suddenly Britain's available power capacity grew substantially>
Soldato
Your remuneration is irrelevant. You compared the UK to the USA and implied that the USA treats their employees with "genuine care" and that the UK treats it's employees "like slaves building the pyramids". A condescending response from you, informing us that you work with no entitled holiday break, does nothing to support your original claim.
Soldato
Thread isn't vaguely about Zen any more. Come on Admins surely some holidays are due?
I keep having to check if I have wandered into the GPU sub forums.
I keep having to check if I have wandered into the GPU sub forums.
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Let's get back on topic.
Yes, we could move all the posts discussing the LGBT video if that's what you want, it'd save this thread from massive deletions, however if we could just move on that'd be better.
Any leaked specs or launch dates yet?
Yes, we could move all the posts discussing the LGBT video if that's what you want, it'd save this thread from massive deletions, however if we could just move on that'd be better.
Any leaked specs or launch dates yet?
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What happened to this thread?
Also, it's far too long to dig through this thread so I'll just ask; have there been any indications on pricing for AM4 boards slip through the net yet from any vendors?
Also, it's far too long to dig through this thread so I'll just ask; have there been any indications on pricing for AM4 boards slip through the net yet from any vendors?
Soldato
I'm optimistic that retail Zens will come with the Wraith or similar decent stock cooler. Would save me getting upsold into spending 100 quid on an overkill AIO radiator and I can funnel that money into Vega instead 
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Soldato
It seems there will be only 4C and 8C Ryzen CPUs:
http://digiworthy.com/2017/01/29/no-amd-6-core-ryzen-cpu-but-the-8c8t-parts/
So that means 4C,4C/8T,8C and 8C/16T SKUs??
http://digiworthy.com/2017/01/29/no-amd-6-core-ryzen-cpu-but-the-8c8t-parts/
So that means 4C,4C/8T,8C and 8C/16T SKUs??
Soldato
Even if 8C/8T is overall better than 6C/12T, it doesn't feel great buying artificially gimped product (SMT feature disabled)
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It would make sense seeing as the Ryzen CPUs are built upon 4 core complexes (CCX) leading to 4/8/12/16/20/24/28/32 core CPUs but only if the CCX can't be split up.
Still, I'd assumed they would disable broken cores on 8 core parts to make 6 core parts, like they've done with previous CPUs. Bit disappointing. Even though an 8c/8t chip will be better than what I have now, it'll still be a bit annoying to actually drop the number of virtual cores.
Soldato
I'm optimistic that retail Zens will come with the Wraith or similar decent stock cooler. Would save me getting upsold into spending 100 quid on an overkill AIO radiator and I can funnel that money into Vega instead
Yeah I agree on that.
Especially since EK won't have their new AIO solutions ready before April it seems.
However need to find what to do about graphics card. The Nano will remain with the 6700K and it's Predator loop until Vega comes out. And the whole package goes to my brother, for free.
Soldato
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Even if 8C/8T is overall better than 6C/12T, it doesn't feel great buying artificially gimped product (SMT feature disabled)
That is understandable, but if it's unavoidable, I'd still take a 'gimped product' over no competition.
What I mean is, there's been a lot of rumours about Zen's design being tied to packages of four, making a 6C/12T variation impossible. If that is true, then Intel would have no competition at that segment, as AMD would have a gap, jumping from 4C/8T to 8C/16T.
If that is truly the case, I'd welcome a 8C/8T variation even if it's 'gimped'. I'd just expect it to be priced accordingly.
EDIT: I'd assume they'd probably also make a 4C/4T variant in that case.
For you to stop suffering like that
I already found a nice cave. It even has a lovely 40" LCD (Limestone Cave Drawing)
Alright, enough jokes (note that I put " /s " in that first post, which means sarcasm).
Really looking forward to Zen/Ryzen. Been with Intel for ages and I would like to change that!
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