Soldato
lol BS Fallout 4 is not a heavy threaded game and a HD texture pack aint changing that.
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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***
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Soldato
Yea, I personally think the system specs game developers advertise are done just to generate sales for the hardware manufactures.
Soldato
Ohh hello.... Ryzen to launch early March according to this.
It really hasn't been confirmed though. These sites talking utter rubbish again.
not really.
Lot of Intel die is filled with things you dont need which add cost.
Lisa Su is not perfect. She lies too.
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I thought AMD had officially confirmed that all cpu's will be unlocked?
That pricing would be very nice.
To be fair, there's been more than one hint that they'll be fully revealing Zen in late February and we already know that AMD aren't doing a "paper launch". They've also said that "by Q1 we do not mean 31st of March", which basically leaves late February or early March as the most likely release date. I don't know if the news websites have any new detail but I'd say the vague release time period is practically known by now.
Correct.
Soldato
It won't launch any time soon in Feb, vendors are still hard at work.
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The 4C/8T Kaby Lake CPUs seem to use a 123MM2 die - the first iteration of Ryzen does not have an IGP but most estimates place at being larger especially when you considered how much cache it has and that does take up a lot of space.
The socket 2011 BW-E CPUs are 246.3MM2 with 10 cores,25MB of L3 cache and a quad channel memory controller.
However,unlike Kaby Lake and BW-E,Ryzen is an SOC so has the entirety of chipset functions in the CPU itself and the motherboards use additional chips to extend those functions. That itself takes up space on the die.
It is safe to say that Ryzen will use a bigger die than the 4C/8T Kaby Lake CPUs but probably smaller than the socket 2011 BW-E CPUs.
Looking at estimates so far,people think Ryzen will be close to 200MM2 in size.
Soldato
Not sure what the bottle neck is in terms of gaming. Realistically since around 2012 we haven't really come very far.
Yes yes we've had mantle and now DX12 but in reality DX12 is only being partially implemented and usually in 9/10 games your better off turning it off.
We're not really in the DX12 era yet. Games are not not really being built from the ground up with DX12 in mind.
Is it CPUs, GPUs or API's that's the problem?
I've had my 3570k since 2012 and even at stock it's still fine for gaming. Doubt a faster CPU would make much difference.
Yes yes we've had mantle and now DX12 but in reality DX12 is only being partially implemented and usually in 9/10 games your better off turning it off.
We're not really in the DX12 era yet. Games are not not really being built from the ground up with DX12 in mind.
Is it CPUs, GPUs or API's that's the problem?
I've had my 3570k since 2012 and even at stock it's still fine for gaming. Doubt a faster CPU would make much difference.
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D12 is only of benefit when A-Syncrnous Shading is used, in which case it gives quit a significant performance upgrade.
However given nVidia don't have that technology its not ported over to PC much, an example of it would be Hitman.
The only other way one might benefit from it is with a weak CPU, someone with an FX-6300 + R9 390X would not get the performance out of the GPU in Total War: Warhammer DX11, but in DX12 he would, for example.
DX12 is a bit crap really, from what i hear Vulkan is much better but its not been around as long.
My apologies. I thought the article was referring to the GDC assumption of the release date.
benched my 3570k before swapping to a 5820k most games gained around 20-30 fps at stock vs stock.some games more.that wasnt ocd either.
depends what you play.i5s of sandy and ivy still good performers bit on some games can hog struggle a bit.
Caporegime
Looks like AMD will officially support Ryzen under Windows 7:
https://www.computerbase.de/2017-02/amd-ryzen-am4-treiber-windows-7/
https://www.computerbase.de/2017-02/amd-ryzen-am4-treiber-windows-7/
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I reckon it willl be a great time for the used market, I've got a spare comp with i3 6100, which should hopefully get a nice upgrade to someones i5/i7
For buyers, I hope so. Hopefully a competitive AMD line will help "adjust" the state of the current second hand CPU market, where, for example, it costs more for a second hand 4790k than they cost when new.
That's not to say I don't absolutely realise why that is (weak pound pushing up prices of new chips, meaning older chip prices are rising too). But I think the market need something to help re-align to where it should be.
On the other hand, there will never likely be a better time to sell a 4th generation, or newer, intel cpu than now, before the AMD launch.
Soldato
Has anyone found out more information regarding some motherboards on CES had on them printed "Support AMD S3.0 Radiator"?
Is AMD planning to sell their own AIO with the Ryzen?
Is AMD planning to sell their own AIO with the Ryzen?