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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

Exciting times, can't wait for the launch now :)

Though I am very confused as to why we still see people buying 7700k's each day etc, their loss I guess!
 
Dave2150;30487179 said:
Exciting times, can't wait for the launch now :)

Though I am very confused as to why we still see people buying 7700k's each day etc, their loss I guess!

Honestly I don't think the Ryzen will match the 7700k in gaming, won't be far behind, and the 4c8t will likely spank it in the price, but everything we've seen suggests the 7700k will walk away with the crown for best gaming CPU at least until the 7740k (which personally I think is smoke and mirrors)

And hey, if you want to play your favourite game tomorrow the ryzen isn't your friend.

I'm hopeful that our patience will pay out though, by the look of everything we've seen and heard so far the bang for your buck pyramid is about to get a massive shake up :)
 
SiDeards73;30487223 said:
Got a sneaky suspicion AMD will bundle an AIO with the top 2 8/16's... Already seen motherboards with some AMD sponsored AIO logo thing on them...

Yeah, they did this with the High end FX series CPU's, 9370 and 9590.
 
SiDeards73;30487223 said:
Got a sneaky suspicion AMD will bundle an AIO with the top 2 8/16's... Already seen motherboards with some AMD sponsored AIO logo thing on them...

As there is a version without an AIO - I'm not putting some **** AIO in my sytem.
 
doodah;30487191 said:
Screw it, consider me hyped if these prices are relatively accurate and performance as they have suggested :D.

Me too! I will be buying one. . . Consider me well and truly hyped!! CHOOOOOO CHOOOOO!!!
 
Silent_Scone;30486934 said:
Also, Asrock have an ITX SKU for X99 which you can pair with a 10 core part. So “nothing they can do” is typically melodramatic.
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Nope,you are deflecting - that X99 mini-ITX motherboard is £270+ so no only your typical melodramatic twisting is in action.

Plus unfortunately for you,the X99 platform is over-engineered for mini-ITX,since sadly for you,Ryzen is an SOC and X99 motherboards need a southbridge so it means more complexity and more PCB space taken up.

Also,any real advantages X99 has in PCI-E lanes,etc is negated on smaller motherboards due to the fact you only have one PCI-E slot and one slot for a PCI-E SSD,etc.

Intel can do nothing about it - an AMD Ryzen 8C/16T CPU at £400 to £500 is half the price of the Core i7 6900K.

The socket 1151 motherboards only go upto 4C/8T.

Plus,sadly for you AMD mini-ITX motherboards will be priced more in line with consumer socket 1151 ones and maybe even cheaper as there is less need for extra chips on board due to the SOC nature of Ryzen.

So going by previous AMD mini-ITX motherboards,probably £70 onwards.

Oh,also Intel has no current socket 2011 8C/16T CPUs for £300 which are easy to buy and are 65W TDP CPUs.

So your melodramatic E-PEEN argument Intel can compete,isn't really true.

But you are so terrified that AMD might have an advantage for such systems,you are trying your best to limit damage for Intel,which is typical for you.

I suspect you are scared the secondhand price of your socket 2011 CPUs will be go down TBH.

Edit!!

Also even a mod here started questioning your claims.

Have you sent them a picture of that Ryzen CPU you claim you have now??
 
~>Dg<~;30487456 said:
we need to see how they perform yet.you see people saying i dont mind paying 400-500 yet no benchmarks :p


There are some benchmarks but we need more, yes.
 
humbug;30487389 said:
Then don't use it.

OFC,if Intel offered an AIO it would be the bestest thing in the world. Nothing stopping someone selling the AIO to somebody else!!

Edit!!

The following is a more general comment about some comments made in the thread.

I still remember some people in denial when CPC leaked the Athlon 64 results months early.

Even Intel engineers say Ryzen looks competitive:

https://www.techpowerup.com/230446/amds-ryzen-chips-10-smaller-than-comparable-intel-skylake-dies

It shows you that even Intel as a company can have positive things to say about Ryzen and it shows the mentality of some in this thread.

They are more defensive of Intel than Intel itself.

Some of the "so-called" enthusiasts here are in some weird E-PEEN bubble.

They are desperate for Ryzen to fail,so to protect the secondhand value of their CPUs and since they are emotionally invested in Intel,and are more worried about E-PEEN.

The rest of us want Ryzen to succeed since it gives Intel more competition and we get more choice and lower prices.

Even the biggest Intel fan should want Ryzen to be decent and be well priced.

There is no rational reason for wanting Ryzen to fail.

SiDeards73;30487082 said:
Dis gun be gud! ;)

Seriously though, dont provoke him, he will just come and drag you down to his level of moronicness and beat you with his vast experience :(

Lets keep it on the topic of AMD and Ryzen and the fact the CPU market is about to get a much needed shake up which should hopefully benefit us all!

Agreed - even Intel engineers at that last Ryzen presentation thought it would be competitive.

LMAO,Intel engineers have more positive things to say about an AMD product than "so-called" enthusiasts.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH;30487483 said:
OFC,if Intel offered an AIO it would be the bestest thing in the world. Nothing stopping someone selling the AIO to somebody else!!

Edit!!

Following is a more general comment about some comments made in the thread.

I still remember some people in denial when CPC leaked the Athlon 64 results months early.

Even Intel engineers say Ryzen looks competitive:

https://www.techpowerup.com/230446/amds-ryzen-chips-10-smaller-than-comparable-intel-skylake-dies

It shows you that even Intel as a company can have positive things to say about Ryzen and it shows the mentality of some in this thread.

They are more defensive of Intel than Intel itself.

Some of the "so-called" enthusiasts here are in some weird E-PEEN bubble.

They are desperate for Ryzen to fail,so to protect the secondhand value of their CPUs and since they are emotionally invested in Intel,and are more worried about E-PEEN.

The rest of us want Ryzen to succeed since it gives Intel more competition and we get more choice and lower prices.

Even the biggest Intel fan should want Ryzen to be decent and be well priced.

There is no rational reason for wanting Ryzen to fail.

Indeed.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH;30487483 said:
OFC,if Intel offered an AIO it would be the bestest thing in the world. Nothing stopping someone selling the AIO to somebody else!!

Edit!!

The following is a more general comment about some comments made in the thread.

I still remember some people in denial when CPC leaked the Athlon 64 results months early.

Even Intel engineers say Ryzen looks competitive:

https://www.techpowerup.com/230446/amds-ryzen-chips-10-smaller-than-comparable-intel-skylake-dies

It shows you that even Intel as a company can have positive things to say about Ryzen and it shows the mentality of some in this thread.

They are more defensive of Intel than Intel itself.

Some of the "so-called" enthusiasts here are in some weird E-PEEN bubble.

They are desperate for Ryzen to fail,so to protect the secondhand value of their CPUs and since they are emotionally invested in Intel,and are more worried about E-PEEN.

The rest of us want Ryzen to succeed since it gives Intel more competition and we get more choice and lower prices.

Even the biggest Intel fan should want Ryzen to be decent and be well priced.

There is no rational reason for wanting Ryzen to fail.



Agreed - even Intel engineers at that last Ryzen presentation thought it would be competitive.

LMAO,Intel engineers have more positive things to say about an AMD product than "so-called" enthusiasts.

Great post :)

So looks like the Intel engineers will be upgrading to zen then
 
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