*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

[Troezar]

More info, supposed Pass mark scores for the 3.8 Zen chip

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/summit-ridge-zen-benchmarks.2482739/page-200#post-38733237

Reading further than then scores is recommended as there is further good info

Initially I thought "that's terrible" then I saw they were all running at different clock speeds. If the Ryzen chip is only at 3.4 GHz I very impressed. Wish I was in a position to buy, looks a great time to be supporting AMD again. I'd love to have an all AMD build again.

 

[Phreaky]

Initially I thought "that's terrible" then I saw they were all running at different clock speeds. If the Ryzen chip is only at 3.4 GHz I very impressed. Wish I was in a position to buy, looks a great time to be supporting AMD again. I'd love to have an all AMD build again.

If you follow the thread to the end it seems to be running at lol-worthy DDR4 settings as well (slower than DDR3).

Why can't someone with actual competence get leaked one of these samples ffs.

 

[SiDeards73]

Even if it's at 3.8 it's still very good, that's on a motherboard that does not support overclocking and the memory is all over the place.

That's also not the top Zen 8/16 as that's a 4ghz chip, so wait til we see XFR enabled results on a decent motherboard with proper memory profiles etc.

No wonder Intel is in full damage control panic mode

 

[Mauller]

Apparently no boosting and really cruddy DDR4. But still a very decent score at the clocks.

The chipset it is using does not support XFR overclocking, so this is pretty much a baseline around 3.4ghz.

You can see here how it correctly reads this guys Overclock, so this Ryzen part must have been running with boost disabled as well.

 

[SiDeards73]

Yep that's around Skylake level of performance I think? Definitely within a few percent.

Definitely going for the 1800X with 32gb ram and the best Mobo Asrock make

 

[Mauller]

Yep that's around Skylake level of performance I think? Definitely within a few percent.

Definitely going for the 1800X with 32gb ram and the best Mobo Asrock make

1700 myself when the time comes dependant on money at the time. Need a new GPU more than anything right now and a Vega part is the most likely candidate now.

 

[SiDeards73]

1700 myself when the time comes dependant on money at the time. Need a new GPU more than anything right now and a Vega part is the most likely candidate now.

I had £2k set aside for a rebuild, spent £450 on a 1070, so with the remains it looks like I should have enough to buy 1800x, top end Asrock Mobo, 32gb ram, decent AIO and have enough left over to get Vega too, could prob sell my 1070 and maybe get 2 Vega lol

 

[Mauller]

I had £2k set aside for a rebuild, spent £450 on a 1070, so with the remains it looks like I should have enough to buy 1800x, top end Asrock Mobo, 32gb ram, decent AIO and have enough left over to get Vega too, could prob sell my 1070 and maybe get 2 Vega lol

Be nice to have the money, Uni students life. lol

 

[Panos]

Be nice to have the money, Uni students life. lol

We were there where you are now Or worst, 2 years in the Army not getting paid at all. (In Greece was unavoidable National Service in the 90s)

So in few years your personal question will be "do I get another 5 days holidays this year or a new top of the range system complete rebuild?" If you become a contractor.

 

[tyler_jrb]

Apparently no boosting and really cruddy DDR4. But still a very decent score at the clocks.

The chipset it is using does not support XFR overclocking, so this is pretty much a baseline around 3.4ghz.

You can see here how it correctly reads this guys Overclock, so this Ryzen part must have been running with boost disabled as well.

This is the 8c/16T Ryzen?

 

[Wah007]

Yes, it says Core per CPU = 8 and Logicals per core = 2. (2x8 = 16 threads).

I hope this comes out in 2 weeks. Can't wait for some proper benchmarks. Even though I really want this on release I don't think I'll be able to buy it for about 3-4 months until after release. At least I can look at other people testing it on youtube.

 

[tyler_jrb]

Yes, it says Core per CPU = 8 and Logicals per core = 2. (2x8 = 16 threads).

I hope this comes out in 2 weeks. Can't wait for some proper benchmarks. Even though I really want this on release I don't think I'll be able to buy it for about 3-4 months until after release. At least I can look at other people testing it on youtube.

Was pretty sure it was, Just my 6c/12T very nearly beats that cpu score both at stock. Depends on other benchmarks i guess.

Hope the pricing rumours are true. Although i'll not be upgrading just yet. Could be AMD for me next time, who knows

 

[Journey]

Well looking at that passmark CPU score, it doesn't seem half bad. The i7-6900k comes in at 17686 at somewhere between 3.2-4.0GHz

 

[AlamoX]

the leak is actualy good if true, puts performance within broadwell, it all depands on the frequency the cpu was running at if 3.4ghz that is better than expected, if 3.8ghz then it's a bit less than what ppl were expecting, i also hope the uplift from overclock is good, lisa said it does scale well, so hype train ?
double precision score is bad, but AMD specified that they will offer APU to HPC coupled with vega GPU, makes sense when you add to it the new HBM cache tech, this is shaping up to be a good awakening of AMD at last.

 

[SiDeards73]

People need to realise those Passmark scores for RyZen are not ideal scenario

1) that's not the top RyZen 8/16, as the top is a 4Ghz chip
2) that RyZen chip is at 3.4ghz as boost is disabled
3) the mobo used does not support Overclocking, so boost and XFR are disabled
4) The memory timings are really bad
5) even with this amount of gimping it's very competitive
6) The Intel chips are all OC'd

Now imagine the top 1800X at 4ghz on an XFR supported mobo allowing it to OC and with decent ram timings and decent cooling allowing it to stretch its legs

You will see a much better performing chip and score

So don't take anything negative from those scores, if anything they are very positive

 

[~>Dg<~]

this that benchmark favour whatever.

we get a range of benchmarks soon then we will know.

 

[opethdisciple]

Any of this new? Supposedly 1700X benchmarks.

 

[elmuzzy66.]

Performance seems there, I expect prices to match the performance.

 

[opethdisciple]

Intel preparing some sort of counter?

 

[jigger]

Intel preparing some sort of counter?

Seems it needs a new chipset. I can't see Intel doing anything unless the laptop and Xeon chips come under pressure. Intel have pretty clearly stated the highend desktop market isn't a priority for them.