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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***
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8 pack binned CPUs will retail at £2.5k
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Are we nearly there yet?
We are one week closer than we were 7 days ago.
RYZEN will only work with an AMD Display adaptor... any other manufacture is NOT supported ...
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If you mean it means literally bugger all, I agree lol.
It's just around the next corner....
they will no longer provide reference coolers for their Radeon GPUs...
I was going to say earlier but didn't want to **** on the fire, it could just be the large L2 cache Zen has that inflates some of the more simple benchmarks.
Agreed, until we see some meaningful benchmarks and reviews near release.
The results so far are all over the place. Although yes, ryzen is looking very promising indeed.
Anyone else noticed this from the Asus site?: https://webcache.googleusercontent....-CROSSHAIR-VI-HERO/+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
Looks like a very solid board with a lot of high end features. The PCIe lanes seems quite interesting as well, the two main "safeslot" ones are from the CPU directly while the rest goes to the chipset.
The Prime is also cached: https://webcache.googleusercontent..../www.asus.com/gr/Motherboards/PRIME-X370-PRO/
Leaning more towards this board unless the CH4 is priced decently.
Looks like a very solid board with a lot of high end features. The PCIe lanes seems quite interesting as well, the two main "safeslot" ones are from the CPU directly while the rest goes to the chipset.
The Prime is also cached: https://webcache.googleusercontent..../www.asus.com/gr/Motherboards/PRIME-X370-PRO/
Leaning more towards this board unless the CH4 is priced decently.
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Crosshair will be the best model in the range for overclocking and features at launch
That is the one I have my eyes on although I'm a little worried about the lack of PCIe lanes on the Ryzen chipset. I was thinking about getting an FPGA and that would take up another PCIe x16 slot so then that would be it and I wouldn't be able to add anything else in the future. On the other hand I guess with all those USB ports I could just plug external devices in I guess.
And some fools will buy it.
I might wait for Intel to release a 6c/12t with higher IPC on coffee
Why do they not just design a half decent non blower?
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I might wait for Intel to release a 6c/12t with higher IPC on coffee
Well, by the time this happens, going to be 2018 and Zen+ will be out..
And knowing Intel it will require a new motherboard and chipset. While Zen+ will fit on the current AM4 mobos, so no need to buy a new motherboard also.......
Nah Intel now know they have a arms race going on, they'll all come off holiday now.
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Thing with that is, CPU design takes a long time, you can't just rush out something completely new. The talk was that due to Zen, Intel finally started a completely new architecture and it's not expected till 2020 at the earliest. Coffeelake/Cannonlake look like a marginal improvement again and they are struggling to get 10nm going at all, saying only dual core mobile products launching at first, much like broadwell failing to hit desktop for over 6 months after the smaller dual/mobile versions came out.
Intel up to sometime in 2019 don't look to have any large IPC gains, the biggest change will be 2 extra cores on their mainstream APU. Now considering sky/kaby can't even beat 28nm Excavator based AMD APUs... lol, 6 core APU won't come close to a quad core Zen APU on the GPU side. So if you need GPU AMD will thrash it, if you need CPU it will be 6 core APU at, lets say not good prices, vs 8 core Zen, which will be faster if you really need CPU performance.
Zen + will probably be out by mid 2019 at the very least, that itself might also bring more cores (gpu or CPU) on the APU side and might bring 12 core CPUs, given the die size, a <270mm^2 12 core is more than viable on 14nm. Zen+ or Zen++ is supposed to be a move to GloFo 7nm(which sounds more like 10nm), if the first update is a shrink then 12 core CPU is easy and maybe even 8 core APU is possible.
On top of all that, AMD are said to already be planning a new architecture for likely 4-5 years from now which isn't far off when Intel have a new architecture planned.
At this point I don't think Intel has anything planned that can suddenly blow AMD out of the water in the next 2-3 years and if Intel has a new killer architecture in 2020-21, AMD has something to counter back with probably 12-18 months later.
Compare that to recent history, AMD had Ath 64 a couple years of awesomeness but Intel counted with Core architecture, took the lead and only extended it with newer iterations. If a new architecture only gives Intel 1-2 years of a significant advantage(assuming it does) that is still way way better than any time in the past decade for AMD.
Do you think that an 1800X Ryzen CPU will offer decent virtual machine performance and video editing performance? Those (along with programming performance for embedded systems and websites and stuff) are the most important performance areas for me. I'm sure a Ryzen 1800X will perform perfectly fine for games it is the more high end tasks which I do that I am worried about. I can quite easily see myself having 2 or 3 virtual machines open at the same time along with tasks running on the Windows 10 host so multitasking is a massively important for me.
I'm still pretty sure I want to get Ryzen but I want to make sure I am making the right decision.
I'm still pretty sure I want to get Ryzen but I want to make sure I am making the right decision.
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That's the new rumour going around that they'll bring CoffeeLake in 2h anyway, yeah. Or actually, maybe Intel said themselves? Hmm.. wonder if it will actually bring decent IPC wise, Kaby didn't really bring anything.
Edit: Heh, my sig was removed and the image was the exact size as it's supposed to be.. right.