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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

Liking the placement of the M.2 slot on the Asus Crosshair board - well away from the graphics card.

I agree. Especially with all these custom 3d part prints, I have great ideas :)
And that can clear the CMOS from a button at the back, so no hassle since going to do a custom watercooling for it later this year.
 
Considering they (intel) just sacked 20K personnel and a new arch takes 5years to fruition I'd say coffee is just a tock and they are in serious trouble.

AMD $25USD before EOY 2017
 
I've found somewhere with proper prices on three AM4 mobos.
X370-Taichi = £184
X370 Gaming K4 =£124
B350 Tomahawk = £117

Had to currency convert and VAT may need to be added on.
 
I've found somewhere with proper prices on three AM4 mobos.
X370-Taichi = £184
X370 Gaming K4 =£124
B350 Tomahawk = £117

Had to currency convert and VAT may need to be added on.

If you add VAT to those prices then they are parity with the Intel equivalent - so much for less complex motherboards being cheaper then!
 
Intel up to sometime in 2019 don't look to have any large IPC gains, the biggest change will be 2 extra cores on their mainstream APU. Now considering sky/kaby can't even beat 28nm Excavator based AMD APUs... lol, 6 core APU won't come close to a quad core Zen APU on the GPU side. So if you need GPU AMD will thrash it, if you need CPU it will be 6 core APU at, lets say not good prices, vs 8 core Zen, which will be faster if you really need CPU performance.

Just a minor thing, but the Intel chips shouldn't be called an apu. That's an amd marketing term.
 
Will the Ryzen 5 be launching at the same time? Everything seems to be focused around the 1700/1800
Unclear. Rumours suggest that the 8 cores will be releasing first, but it seems likely that there will be a launch window and it might be a few weeks to roll the whole lot out. Intel kinda did that with Kabylake was a couple weeks later before the unlocked i3 hit the shelves.

This is all guess work though. Hopefully we'll get all the answers after next week. :)
 
Crosshair will be the best model in the range for overclocking and features at launch


It may be for features and OC'ing, but that USB 3.0 header placement is a real PITA... of course if you don't use it then no problem, but they should always be on the right edge ideally. Having at the bottom invariably causes issues with the big connectors and stiff cables. Never figured why they don't have alternatives for these connectors... EVGA do one (or certainly used to) but it's not widely available.
 
here is first look at MSI Titanium some ppl have been drooling about, priced at 299$, with cool stats and feature, half of wich are patent pending xD, like the M.2 shield, and some novelty like VR boost :D " boost your VR exprience and reduce latency :p "
anyway other MSI mobo on there too.
enjoy!
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Unclear. Rumours suggest that the 8 cores will be releasing first, but it seems likely that there will be a launch window and it might be a few weeks to roll the whole lot out. Intel kinda did that with Kabylake was a couple weeks later before the unlocked i3 hit the shelves.

This is all guess work though. Hopefully we'll get all the answers after next week. :)

my understanding is that, it will be 8 and 6 cores on launch day, and 4 cores to be released later on.
nothing official though.

Cheers, im desperate for an upgrade my 8120 is getting old :D
 
I'm trying to figure out how m2 shield works... a thermal pad to conduct heat, but to what looks like a heat shield... meaning here, conduct your heat through the pad right to a heat insulator, so where is it dissipating the heat?
 
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