*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

[drunkenmaster]

How does it work?
It doesn't

Yeah, just googled it and was going to come back and post it.

Heat shield is a misnomer, it is a heatsink just a very poorly designed one. A heat shield is something that is designed to prevent thermal conduct, the name and marketing implies it's supposed to prevent heat from your gpu getting to the m.2 drive, it doesn't, it's not a heat shield by any description. It's a thermal pad and some metal, it has a little more surface area than the chips themselves because the chips don't span the entire sticks area, so it works marginally as a very poor heatsink for the top side. But it's blocking more airflow to the bottom side so increased temps.

Basically it's both a very poorly designed heatsink, and it's incredibly poorly marketed by mixing terminology which suggests to completely opposite technologies working together(heat transfer and thermal insulation).

It was like when ddr first got heat spreaders, at the time and probably still now just a complete waste of time. Due to the thickness of them they reduce air and effective surface area by making it far harder for air to get between sticks if you have them in adjacent slots.

 

[StarShock]

I see old coolers like the Arctic Freezer 13 are claiming AM4 compatibility. But with the way the plastic tabs on the AM4 socket are, the cooler would point up at the top of the case rather than out the back, wouldn't it?

https://www.arctic.ac/uk_en/freezer-13.html

the hook/peg connector things on the AM4 bracket are in the same place as on the older AMD platforms, just the screw holes through the mother board are slightly wider than before. So anything that used the bracket would fit the same as it did before.

 

[Silent_Scone]

here is first look at MSI Titanium some ppl have been drooling about, priced at 299$, with cool stats and feature, half of wich are patent pending xD, like the M.2 shield, and some novelty like VR boost " boost your VR exprience and reduce latency "
anyway other MSI mobo on there too.
enjoy!
Source : wccftech

Spoiler

DIMM socket armor? lol

 

[gavinh87]

For that really heavy DDR4

 

[harney]

I've found somewhere with proper prices on three AM4 mobos.
X370-Taichi = £184
X370 Gaming K4 =£124
B350 Tomahawk = £117

Had to currency convert and VAT may need to be added on.

getting sick of gouging & brexit tax or any other tax they can slap on top ...hope this is not true

 

[Chrisc]

DIMM socket armor? lol

Does this also improve the VR experience?

 

[bro306]

Am going with 1800x with Asrock X370 Fatal1ty Pro Gaming. Looks a amazing board with dual M.2 for Raid.

 

[awaybreaktoday]

https://translate.google.co.uk/tran...rar-battre-an-vantat.html#comments&edit-text=

Motherboard Manufacturers now confirm that AMD Ryzen be launched on 2 March that the processors according to internal tests are performing above expectations.


Several motherboard manufacturers now bear witness to Nordic Hardware AMD's Ryzen processors is on its way. The launch is said in writing to be nailed to 2 March when AMD launches the first processor models in Ryzen family. Most suggest that AMD is investing in top models with eight cores and sixteen threads right from day one and follow up with more models with fewer cores afterwards.

 

[harney]

Does this also improve the VR experience?

possibly ...if one keeps on knocking into there pc while in VR then that Ram is protected by its armour so it is extremely useful

 

[gavinh87]

Best looking matx board?

 

[Yutang13]

Am going with 1800x with Asrock X370 Fatal1ty Pro Gaming. Looks a amazing board with dual M.2 for Raid.

That's a good looking board for sure. I wonder how long it will take for them to sort the OC formula board out, preferably the Matx one. Which is a point, most boards we've seen so far are atx...

 

[Spyhop]

the hook/peg connector things on the AM4 bracket are in the same place as on the older AMD platforms, just the screw holes through the mother board are slightly wider than before. So anything that used the bracket would fit the same as it did before.

Right - Looks like the cooler must have had the same strange orientation on AM3 boards then. Something to avoid I guess.

 

[AthlonXP1800]

Like take this to lightspeed hype:
https://twitter.com/VideoCardz/status/832583990284517381

Maybe they are shocked to see Ryzen with all 8 cores OC to 5GHz on air?

https://twitter.com/digosf/status/832632446428598272

 

[five8five]

Cat, you should edit out the swearing.

 

[Yaayuh!]

CAN'T HANDLE THE HYPE!!!!!

 

[AlamoX]

Best looking matx board?

Chipset : AMD B350
Form Factor : mATX
PCI-E 3.0 x16 / x1 : 2× / 1×
M.2 : 1×

 

[FoxEye]

Any boards at the old AMD prices? Ie, £30 - £60? AMD boards - even gaming ones - used to be cheaper than Intel boards.

Have we now entered an era where all boards are >£100? Sucks, man.

 

[gavinh87]

Chipset : AMD B350
Form Factor : mATX
PCI-E 3.0 x16 / x1 : 2× / 1×
M.2 : 1×

Thanks, not bad looking I suppose I just hope the B350 chipset isn't gimped too much. Matx needs more love from all vendors.

 

[jigger]

CAN'T HANDLE THE HYPE!!!!!

Just lay back and let it wash over you.

Ryzen will take us TO THE MOON!

 

[DragonQ]

Is there any actual way to use an M.2 SSD without it throttling? Seems the only options are to spend quite a bit on a PCIe adapter/enclosure with a heatsink, or to void the warranty by replacing the sticker with some smaller heatsinks.

Having M.2 slots under a GPU seems really dumb...Maybe they are cooled sufficiently if the M.2 port is elsewhere and case airflow is good?