Then i wont be buying anything from ASRock, the MSI Tomahawk is the one that i though looked good, turns out its nicely in my price range and 40% cheaper than the Intel equivalent, minus one M.2, i only need one anyway.
New GPU comes first tho.....
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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***
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Then i wont be buying anything from ASRock, the MSI Tomahawk is the one that i though looked good, turns out its nicely in my price range and 40% cheaper than the Intel equivalent, minus one M.2, i only need one anyway.
New GPU comes first tho.....
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Never figured Asrock boards would be pricier at the top end than Asus boards. Those prices can't be right.
Not going to say I'm sceptical about those "prices" but I'm sceptical.
The price of the Tomahawk lines up and the prices sound a lot more reasonable.
I got the numbers yesterday from a completely different source so the prices for the Tomahawk are close enough, the seller has to take their cut maybe my source is just greedier. But £184 sounds a whole lot more reasonable than £340!
Agreed that the new AMD boards will probably be comparably cheaper than the intel counterparts.
I would put Asrock up there with Asus now in terms of specification and build quality. Its a shame the prices have started to reflect that. My x99 asrock board is amazing and was very well priced when I purchased it
The Intel ASRock Taichi is £230, £184 is also a lot more reasonable than that 
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asro...cket-1151-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-14x-ak.html
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asro...cket-1151-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-14x-ak.htmlIt's above its Broadwell equivalent, and considering Skylake and Kaby Lake are only have 3% better IPC compared to Broadwell (on average), it looks like Ryzen will at least match Kaby Lake IPC in most benchmarks.
main reason why Intel is in full panic mode
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Yeah, good luck with that lol
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I don't think it's Kabylake level IPC, I would say Haswell+ or BW-E level in single threaded stuff but potentially better than Intel in Multithreaded.
The most recent leaked benchmarks all put Ryzen ahead of Broadwell at the same clocks, except for the Passmark physics and prime tests. it's not even just multithreaded benchmarks that it's ahead in. I'm sure your super secret sources know better though.
So you think it's at Broadwell IPC but not at Kaby Lake IPC? You realise there's maybe 3% difference between the two, right? That's nearly margin-of-error stuff. If it's Broadwell-E level IPC (in a particular benchmark) then it's fair to say it's competing with, and very close to, Kaby Lake too.
The thread is just full of hope and zero substance!!!!!!!!! Don't understand anyone even typing in it till they see exactly whats going on.
Asrock boards are generally very good these days at the top end. Z170 OC Formula and OCFM are truly great as is X99 Killer M and from Z77 infact all OCF great. Z270 Taichi is great and I know Nick was working on this along time so it will be good. Nicks products are good end of....
Asrock boards are generally very good these days at the top end. Z170 OC Formula and OCFM are truly great as is X99 Killer M and from Z77 infact all OCF great. Z270 Taichi is great and I know Nick was working on this along time so it will be good. Nicks products are good end of....
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Nope, in this case you can work it out for yourself. Plus, yes, if it were matching KBL or faster in anything - you'd bet your bottom I'd be more excited about it too!
You have the advantage that you know pretty much everything within the NDA about RyZen. The rest of us only have hope.... Leave us alone to dream / hope
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Thing is Scone, like John Snow, you know nothing, just secondhand information and rumors like the rest of us, so do us all a favour and stop pretending you know something, you don't, sorry but your not the special little flower you think you are.
No one but the people who have final silicon know how good it is, I bet even 8Pack has not used final chips yet
No one but the people who have final silicon know how good it is, I bet even 8Pack has not used final chips yet
Well, its alight for you critical of us speculating, you probably have one by now.
All we have to go on are these apparent leaks and AMD's own Blender and Handbreak results, these benchmarks / leaks exist so thats what we will talk about. we don't have the chip in our hands, we rely on others who do.