*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

[labbby]

Exactly. Yet people here still love to use that site and keep quoting them. Lol

we should teach them a lesson and get gibbo to start posting a load of crazy wrong facts so they post it

 

[TNA]

we should teach them a lesson and get gibbo to start posting a load of crazy wrong facts so they post it

 

[Orcvader]

This should help. You don't have to turn off cores, when you can control overclocks per core.

I'm more curious if this is better to use compared to doing everything in the BIOS. Or can it interact with the BIOS settings directly?

 

[AlamoX]

The question is, do all of the R7 support this?


And may explain why this R7 is showing as a 6c12t.

yup, it was meant to be a joke

 

[brigantium]

More like someone from WCCFTECH is tasked with reading OCUK and feeding 'news'.

90% of their articles are 'our sources say that X' where sources are some post by some guy in some forum.

They are a (biased) tech gossip site with lots of information and quotes out of context. They could post AMD offers Haribos with Ryzen for all they care

 

[Silent_Scone]

I'm more curious if this is better to use compared to doing everything in the BIOS. Or can it interact with the BIOS settings directly?

The benefit is obviously being able to do these things on the fly. Depending on what you are setting, there may be latency either way depending on how good Overdrive is. But all will become clearer once these drop.

 

[Kashinoda]

and then you get this picture :


makes you wonder who the leak is ...

Here's a gif of that screenshot being made, the element editor in Chrome is pretty useful
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/image...a1b129d0ad2c4b8d9d7813def366603d55e8f0cea.gif

 

[Deleted member 66701]

I'm more curious if this is better to use compared to doing everything in the BIOS. Or can it interact with the BIOS settings directly?

I like "in windows" clocking apps. For example, my system wont post at anything higher that 4.8ghz, but I can use EasyTune to up the voltage and multiplier once windows has loaded and bench at 5ghz.

 

[jaffveyda]

Would there be an option to purchase the processors without the coolers?

 

[Toss3]

Would there be an option to purchase the processors without the coolers?

They cost exactly the same, so no point in buying them wihtout one.

 

[Zeed]

Would there be an option to purchase the processors without the coolers?

Well you can buy cpu without cooler its called 1700x/1800x you pay more to get less

 

[Firestar_3x]

Well you can buy cpu without cooler its called 1700x/1800x you pay more to get less

Will be interesting to see overclocking results for an 1800x, i suspect it will achieve clock speeds far in excess of what a 1700 can do.

 

[Zeed]

Indeed I hope 1700x/1800x are give or take luck based if it goes for max OC

 

[Harlequin]

 

[Jeps]

Will be interesting to see overclocking results for an 1800x, i suspect it will achieve clock speeds far in excess of what a 1700 can do.

Thats what i'm expecting. What i'm really interested in is if the 65w quoted for the 1700 is purely from the fact that it is using less voltage at stock or is there more going on to get the tdp down that could effect overclocking potential?

 

[Deleted member 66701]

Thats what i'm expecting. What i'm really interested in is if the 65w quoted for the 1700 is purely from the fact that it is using less voltage at stock or is there more going on to get the tdp down that could effect overclocking potential?

I'm not.

I'm expecting it to be like the Athlon XP days. You could buy and expensive XP3200 and overclock it a tiny bit, or you could buy and XP2500m and overlock it to the same level ans an XP3200.

I just can't see AMD leaving any spare performance on the table with their top chip (1800x).

 

[JediFragger]

I just can't see AMD leaving any spare performance on the table with their top chip (1800x).

Agreed, esp not when 99% of buyers will run things at stock

I'm hoping the 1700 is a stormer!! 4.2-4.3 for a good chip

 

[DragonQ]

Probably not. We already know that the R7 1700 can be overclocked to 4 GHz on water (side-note: I hope temps aren't an issue for air coolers), whereas the i7-6900K can generally get to 4.3 GHz as I understand it. Hopefully the R7 1800X can get to 4.2-4.3 GHz so it's not left behind on clock speeds; I imagine it will because you can't really have a chip with 4 GHz boost and 4.1+ GHz XFR suddenly get unstable at 4.2 GHz - the margin of error is too small and with chips degrading over time you'd expect some to stop working even at stock speeds and voltages eventually.

 

[Combat squirrel]

I'm trying to avoid spending money, but I'm just doing some basic video editing on my i7 quad haswell at 3.37Ghz (laptop), and mother of bob its cray slow, ugggghhhh might have to pre-order

 

[N19h7m4r3]

Probably not. We already know that the R7 1700 can be overclocked to 4 GHz on water (side-note: I hope temps aren't an issue for air coolers), whereas the i7-6900K can generally get to 4.3 GHz as I understand it. Hopefully the R7 1800X can get to 4.2-4.3 GHz so it's not left behind on clock speeds; I imagine it will because you can't really have a chip with 4 GHz boost and 4.1+ GHz XFR suddenly get unstable at 4.2 GHz - the margin of error is too small and with chips degrading over time you'd expect some to stop working even at stock speeds and voltages eventually.

Depends on the Water cooler or Air cooler I'd say. I get better temps on the same OC on my 5820K with the Noctua D15S, than I did with my Corsair H110i GTX with Noctua IPPC fans installed.

So if people can get the 1700 to 4Ghz at a reasonable temp on a similar AIO water solution I don't see decent air coolers having much issue at all.
All depends on Power draw once they're clocked up, and silicone lottery. I do hope they not hot chips though.