*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

[Bonjour]

My source in R&D just informed me that there's a specially binned 1900x in the works capable of 5.0Ghz with no cooler at all.

Incorrect. It is cooled using an AiO filled with tears harvested from Intel board room execs.

 

[daman2k]

Incorrect. It is cooled using an AiO filled with tears harvested from Intel board room execs.

 

[Yaayuh!]

anyone pre ordering before benchmarks out is kinda puzzling.

How is it puzzling?

 

[CEUOTC]

Incorrect. It is cooled using an AiO filled with tears harvested from Intel board room execs.

Na it cannae be, l hear it is a flux capacitor strapped to a warp core!

 

[daman2k]

How is it puzzling?

Just don't open anything until benchmarks, if no good then return. I don't see why that is puzzling either?

 

[loxocemus]

once the nda is lifted and all the ins and outs are known re ryzen, will there be a clear cut answer for someone like me, i7-7700k or 1700x, not an overclocker, infrequent gamer, just want a fast pc.

thankyou for the all answers to my questions iv asked here and in the other sub forums, its been most appreciated.

 

[Goody_GTI]

There's nothing wrong with pre-ordering... two scenarios:

- The benchmarks get released, performance is good, you have a CPU while other scramble trying to get one - sit back and smoke a cuban cigar
- The benchmarks get released, performance is bad, return the CPU unopened and get a refund

It looks like shipping has gone back nearly a week already (2nd -> 8th) purely based on pre-bench pre-orders, so this will only go back further if performance is good

 

[Yaayuh!]

There's nothing wrong with pre-ordering... two scenarios:

- The benchmarks get released, performance is good, you have a CPU while other scramble trying to get one - sit back and smoke a cuban cigar
- The benchmarks get released, performance is bad, return the CPU unopened and get a refund

It looks like shipping has gone back nearly a week already (2nd -> 8th) purely based on pre-bench pre-orders, so this will only go back further if performance is good

Indeed. Already ahead of a lengthening queue.

Aren't reviews hitting 28th anyway? Or has this moved?

 

[humbug]

Indeed. Already ahead of a lengthening queue.

Aren't reviews hitting 28th anyway? Or has this moved?

Good question, does anyone actually know for a fact? AMDMatt?

 

[harney]

There's nothing wrong with pre-ordering... two scenarios:

- The benchmarks get released, performance is good, you have a CPU while other scramble trying to get one - sit back and smoke a cuban cigar
- The benchmarks get released, performance is bad, return the CPU unopened and get a refund

It looks like shipping has gone back nearly a week already (2nd -> 8th) purely based on pre-bench pre-orders, so this will only go back further if performance is good

Agree

(2nd -> 8th) oh here we go

 

[jigger]

Will have to wait until Ryzen 5 or Ryzen 3 is released, as that's more my price range I'm afraid. Although if you want to send your free sample out when you get it, I'll give it a go.

Why do I feel that's not possible.

 

[N19h7m4r3]

RyZen 1800X apparently smashing Cinebench R15 world record on LN2

http://hothardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-52ghz-on-ln2-smashes-cinebench-r15-record

 

[Frozennova]

@Gibbo Can you confirm pre-orders ship on the 2nd

Hopefully a completed order 5 minutes after launch means I got in fast enough to not be stuck waiting for stock

 

[Yaayuh!]

@Gibbo Can you confirm pre-orders ship on the 2nd?

I asked via the customer service forum and basically purchase orders placed Wednesday when the ETA was 2nd March should be fine as that's based on the first/latest (at the time) stock order. Now that they've probably sold 1000 Ryzen CPUs, another stock order has been placed so any new purchase orders placed will use stock from that new stock order with the date of 8th March.

Would be good to get a confirmation from @Gibbo though. But assuming they got the stock for 2nd March orders, then they'll be released.

 

[brigantium]

Indeed. Already ahead of a lengthening queue.

Aren't reviews hitting 28th anyway? Or has this moved?

Anandtech said they aren't allowed to share their results until 2nd.

 

[joeyjojo]

RyZen 1800X apparently smashing Cinebench R15 world record on LN2

http://hothardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-52ghz-on-ln2-smashes-cinebench-r15-record

Sounds like rubbish to me, especially at only 5.2 GHz. If the record is for a single CPU there are comparable Intel cores out there with 24C/48T at mid-2 GHz clock speeds which have 50% more FLOPS.

Unless the record is for an 8-core, which could be good I suppose.

 

[humbug]

RyZen 1800X apparently smashing Cinebench R15 world record on LN2

http://hothardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-52ghz-on-ln2-smashes-cinebench-r15-record

Critics may feel differently about using LN2 to significantly overclock it, noting that it doesn't seem all that impressive when Intel processors can do the same with much cheaper cooling solutions. However, AMD is touting a high instructions per clock (IPC) for Ryzen, which typically means greater efficiency at the expense of higher clockspeeds. According to AMD, finalized silicon for Ryzen boasts a >52 percent IPC improvement over previous-gen parts.

Critics may point and detract but it doesn't take away from the fact that it beat the record, that says something about the IPC and its scaling with Mhz, with that in mind how high it clocks is less relevant, in the same way an FX-8350 can do 5Ghz on a 120mm AIO is irrelevant because a 4Ghz 6700K beats it.

 

[Frozennova]

I asked via the customer service forum and basically purchase orders placed Wednesday when the ETA was 2nd March should be fine as that's based on the first/latest (at the time) stock order. Now that they've probably sold 1000 Ryzen CPUs, another stock order has been placed so any new purchase orders placed will use stock from that new stock order with the date of 8th March.

Would be good to get a confirmation from @Gibbo though. But assuming they got the stock for 2nd March orders, then they'll be released.

Makes sense, I'm guessing the ETA has just shifted for new orders as they've sold their intial stock allocation

 

[brigantium]

I asked via the customer service forum and basically purchase orders placed Wednesday when the ETA was 2nd March should be fine as that's based on the first/latest (at the time) stock order. Now that they've probably sold 1000 Ryzen CPUs, another stock order has been placed so any new purchase orders placed will use stock from that new stock order with the date of 8th March.

Would be good to get a confirmation from @Gibbo though. But assuming they got the stock for 2nd March orders, then they'll be released.

@Gibbo said they have ~3000 Ryzen 1700 ready for the 2nd. I think the bottleneck will be the motherboards, there will be many people with Ryzen but no motherboard for a while.

 

[daman2k]

And if the reviews are good and people start scrambling for chips I bet some sites will up the price, then the preorder will look like the smart move.