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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

drunkenmaster said:
I think we're back to the revision B mobos tbh. Abit 2.0... I remember that bit but can't actually remember what board or chipset that was :p
With a completely new platform the first motherboards are a little bit of a shot in the dark. I expect there to be a couple mobos out of all of them that did something really stupid and just suck at any overclocking, a couple will be epic and the rest will probably improve significantly just through bios upgrades. The worst mobos might get fairly quick(2-3 month) b revisions, the rest will probably hang on till Zen+ which will probably bring an updated range of motherboards with lots more tweaks and lots more ideas about how to get the best out of Zen included in the design.

EDIT:- I just realised, I was referring to the 2.0 in the motherboard, there being a major second version of a board everyone loved, after I posted I realised I hadn't even really noticed I said Abit, that alone is a blast from the past.
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i dont want to invest in current ryzen though if its just a testbed for zen+ and better boards to come, if i buy now i wont be buying into zen+
 
loxocemus said:
i dont want to invest in current ryzen though if its just a testbed for zen+ and better boards to come, if i buy now i wont be buying into zen+
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It's not a test bed, the next thing is always better. If the next thing is 3-4 months away you might consider waiting, but Zen+ is a year away at least, though I'm guessing it will be late 2018, maybe pushed into 2019. Platforms improve over time, that is just how it is. Saying that I got a x99 sli plus MSI board and it still has some incredibly irritating quirks to the bios and software, like it won't give enough juice to the case fan to start to spin when booting. The only way I can get it to run quietly is opening the software every time and turning it up to get it started, then back down to a quiet level. This was literally years after the platform launched.

After Zen + there is Zen++, in the same way that after Skylake there was Kaby, then Coffeelake, then Icelake(or that might be a couple later).

I'm just expecting a bigger uplift between Zen and Zen+, than between definitely Kaby and Coffeelake, but maybe Coffeelake and the one after that too.
 
Sitting back, waiting a week or two to find out how good Ryzen really is (or isn't). I might then think about considering an upgrade (maybe to Intel).

In the meantime, I'm enjoying watching the excitement.
 
drunkenmaster said:
Saying that I got a x99 sli plus MSI board and it still has some incredibly irritating quirks to the bios and software, like it won't give enough juice to the case fan to start to spin when booting. The only way I can get it to run quietly is opening the software every time and turning it up to get it started, then back down to a quiet level. This was literally years after the platform launched.
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Similar issues with the Asrock Z170 Formula OC also. If I clear CMOS, on first boot I have to set all fans at 100% speed on BIOS or else nothing moves, and the temps sky rocket with the Predator 360.
Then after the reboot, I have to set the memory. Reboot and then apply the overclock. If I try to do them all together, black screen :/ and clear CMOS.

Similar issues with the MSI X79 GD45, but that one didn't had issue with the fans but setting XMP and overclocking on the same boot only.
 
drunkenmaster said:
after I posted I realised I hadn't even really noticed I said Abit, that alone is a blast from the past.
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I remembered, the other day I had an I-Will board back in the day, those were bloody lovely. They came with really nice IDE cables that were round instead of flat :) loads of custom bios were available for them.
 
Ynot said:
What one are you talking about, NH-D15 Dual or NH-D15S?, thinking of a 1700x


Thanks.
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Both will do you fine; and there's a 1-2 degree difference between D15 and D15S, and that's only because the D15S come with a single fan, as opposed to two. The D15S is off set though, and gives more room for a GPU in the top most PCIe. Where the normal D15 will block that slot entirely on some motherboards.
 
SiDeards73 said:
https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...-and-discussion.2499879/page-79#post-38768275

ok...
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"AsMedia invested a lot for this to come out the right way, they did way better than decently in my opinion, wait to see tomorrow's benchmarks. People still expects intel to have the edge over mem bandwidth and single core IPC, I guess that tomorrow many heads will explode."

"I make third party assets. Ryzen at 4.4 OC kills intel at all grounds, single threaded or not."

oh
 
drunkenmaster said:
I think we're back to the revision B mobos tbh. Abit 2.0... I remember that bit but can't actually remember what board or chipset that was :p
With a completely new platform the first motherboards are a little bit of a shot in the dark. I expect there to be a couple mobos out of all of them that did something really stupid and just suck at any overclocking, a couple will be epic and the rest will probably improve significantly just through bios upgrades. The worst mobos might get fairly quick(2-3 month) b revisions, the rest will probably hang on till Zen+ which will probably bring an updated range of motherboards with lots more tweaks and lots more ideas about how to get the best out of Zen included in the design.

EDIT:- I just realised, I was referring to the 2.0 in the motherboard, there being a major second version of a board everyone loved, after I posted I realised I hadn't even really noticed I said Abit, that alone is a blast from the past.
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You make some good points there. I had initially thought about just getting a B350 board. Then recently decided I could go for a lower end X370 for the better sound mostly, but everything else it gives. But, having read your post there, I might drop back to a B350 board again, and save the cash for a future mb upgrade when zen++ arrives, or at whatever point a REALLY good feature-set arrives on the platform.
 
N19h7m4r3 said:
Both will do you fine; and there's a 1-2 degree difference between D15 and D15S, and that's only because the D15S come with a single fan, as opposed to two. The D15S is off set though, and gives more room for a GPU in the top most PCIe. Where the normal D15 will block that slot entirely on some motherboards.
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Thank you for the info, more room sounds good.
 
Tyrand said:
It's about to be bullet train with the official launch stream, the FLOOD of press reviews and the feeling of getting the email saying your Ryzen had been shipped. :cool: hold on tight
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Nah its about to become the nursery express as people start whining and blaming various parties for their order not being sent for lack of parts or not being delivered by same day motorbike courier instead of the usual system. Probably rounded off with "never using X party again" because "trivial reason".
 
Hotwired said:
Nah its about to become the nursery express as people start whining and blaming various parties for their order not being sent for lack of parts or not being delivered by same day motorbike courier instead of the usual system. Probably rounded off with "never using X party again" because "trivial reason".
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Lmao - I'm hoping that my order within 3 hours of orders opening ( but decided to cancel so I could upgrade -read: spend more- :o ) was quick enough to get it shipped out later today.
 
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