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awaybreaktoday · 1 Mar 2017 at 20:31

GamersNexus‏ @GamersNexus
@JayzTwoCents We have found a few major considerations for Ryzen testing that significantly impact results. Has taken several retests.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 1 Mar 2017 at 20:33

awaybreaktoday said:
GamersNexus‏ @GamersNexus
@JayzTwoCents We have found a few major considerations for Ryzen testing that significantly impact results. Has taken several retests.

This too:

Unfortunately I will not have day 1 results for Ryzen. Their delay getting it to me + my SF trip ruined that chance. Ill be fashionably late

So his review is delayed.

I really,really hope this is not something like the bug which the first Phenom had.

awaybreaktoday · 1 Mar 2017 at 20:36

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
This too:

So his review is delayed.

I really,really hope this is not something like the bug which the first Phenom had.

If hes a day late he loses view which = cash

SimBy · 1 Mar 2017 at 20:38

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
This too:

So his review is delayed.

I really,really hope this is not something like the bug which the first Phenom had.

Could be a positive impact

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 1 Mar 2017 at 20:39

awaybreaktoday said:
If hes a day late he loses view which = cash

SimBy said:
Could be a positive impact

Well hopefully it is - everybody remembers the TLB the first Phenom had,so lets hope its something not negative!!

Hagar · 1 Mar 2017 at 20:41

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Well hopefully it is - everybody remembers the TLB the first Phenom had,so lets hope its something not negative!!

Or the SB chipset issues!

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 1 Mar 2017 at 20:43

nkata said:
Or the SB chipset issues!

That would be worse as it would need a re-jig of the CPU itself as most of the chip-set functionality is in the CPU.

Phixsator · 1 Mar 2017 at 20:43

Silent_Scone said:
Paul from Paul's hardware is honest, quite a down to earth guy. For a basic overview and results comparison he can be trusted

I second this. The guy is legit imho.

SiDeards73 · 1 Mar 2017 at 20:43

Im glad he is not getting any day 1 review revenue, not that i would have contributed to it anyhow, but his ego needs deflating somewhat.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 1 Mar 2017 at 20:44

How is Tech of Tomorrow? He is the bloke who did that AMD song - he said he bought all the hardware himself so would be open to saying what he wanted about it.

harney · 1 Mar 2017 at 20:45

nkata said:
Or the SB chipset issues!

or pentium FDIV bug

SiDeards73 · 1 Mar 2017 at 20:45

QVL List for Asus CH6 Memory =====> http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb...IR-VI-HERO_DRAM_QVL_forAMDRyzenProcessors.pdf

Actually i dont think thats the most recent one, theres word it now supports 3800mhz

Martini1991 · 1 Mar 2017 at 20:48

nkata said:
Or the SB chipset issues!

Hardly the same as the TLB bug, Phenom performance got slower with the fix applied.
You ended up with a new board with Intels fix

.

I had a few boards at the time that I needed to get replaced with the B3 revision, as I'd done a few Sandy builds for people.

Hagar · 1 Mar 2017 at 20:48

SiDeards73 said:
QVL List for Asus CH6 Memory =====> http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb...IR-VI-HERO_DRAM_QVL_forAMDRyzenProcessors.pdf

I'm pleased to see mine at No. 1 in the list G-Skill F4-3200C14D-16GVR

Spec-Chum · 1 Mar 2017 at 20:50

harney said:
or pentium FDIV bug

That was (and still is) blown out of all proportion tho. It was something like 64 in a million off (0.000064)

They even had to release a utility to *test* to see if you had the bug. If it was that bad I'm sure you'd know you had it

SiDeards73 · 1 Mar 2017 at 20:51

Sisoft entry for a 1700 @ 4.1ghz

http://ranker.sisoftware.net/show_run.php?q=c2ffc9ef8eefd2ead2e7d0e3c5b78aba9cf99ca191b7c4f9c1&l=en

KrisWragg · 1 Mar 2017 at 20:52

ben90 said:
Can any of you folks give a list of reviewers you trust? I'd like to make sure I'm watching legit sources in the next few days.

Personally I'll be looking at Guru3D and AnandTech first, then I'll probably have a skim of Hexus and TomsHardware reviews after.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 1 Mar 2017 at 20:55

Someone over on AT forums analysed the de-lidding video:
https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...-and-discussion.2499879/page-78#post-38768208

So Ryzen is around 210MM2,which is much smaller than the 300MM2+ BD/PD die used in the FX8150/FX8350.

Phixsator · 1 Mar 2017 at 20:56

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
How is Tech of Tomorrow? He is the bloke who did that AMD song - he said he bought all the hardware himself so would be open to saying what he wanted about it.

He seems like a nice dude but he also seems oblivious when it comes to tech. Heard him say so many wrong things over the few months i follow him a good while back.

Buckster · 1 Mar 2017 at 20:59

Considering that twitter post from g nexus I wonder if mobo.and or mem has a greater effect on performance for these chips than we've seen previous

Either ability to use higher memory speeds and more bandwidth or the CPUs running consistently at higher clocks on mobo with better cooling of vrms etc

Just pondering

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