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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

alexp999 said:
Motherboard manufacturers have always done this. It's not the CPU supporting it.

My old Crosshair 990FX supported XMP too.

That said, it wasn't called XMP, so Intel might ask them to rename it. (Asus put it under D.O.C.P).
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The Asus B350M-A mobo I collected this morning shows D.O.C.P in the very sparse user manuals BIOS screens so I'm hoping my 2666 DDR4 will "just work".
 
labbby said:
confirmed.... OCuk have stopped sending out customer orders due to world wide Haribo shortage :eek:
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Motherboard vendors are still working on BIOS for AM4 Mobos, if you read what Orbitalwash had said a day or so ago, initially AMD sent out early Zen samples and they were less than spectacular so the mobo vendors were in no rush to support it, AMD respun the chips and sent them again, this time the reaction was overwhelmingly positive, so there was a delay in vendors getting on board, so a lot of what we are seeing now with motherboard shortages makes sense, vendors initially anticipated that AM4 wouldnt have so high a demand... AMD sorted Zen, Vendors are suddenly having to crank up production, this induces a lag which we are seeing.

With the early boards being sent out on immature bios, AMD has been beavering away getting updates to them to fix issues with compatability etc, there was issues with memory, issues with SMT also apparently.

Like the Iranian review leak, these current ones also reek of the same issues, immature bios etc.

I would even go so far as to say even the official reviews you see today should be taken as a starting point for performance and probably not the end product, i would expect more updates to come for the motherboards to fix issues and potentially increase performance.

Asus have stated 3800mhz support for the CH6, so when i see a mobo running on 2666mhz, and knowing AMD's IMC is a beast, it points to a bottleneck or issue with performance, resulting in reviews like the leaks we have seen. Once the BIOS is good and people are running Ryzen with memory over 3000mhz or so, you will probably see better results than you will today, unless the reviewers have motherboards with the latest bios with fixes to the memory and SMT issues.
 
SiDeards73 said:
Motherboard vendors are still working on BIOS for AM4 Mobos, if you read what Orbitalwash had said a day or so ago, initially AMD sent out early Zen samples and they were less than spectacular so the mobo vendors were in no rush to support it, AMD respun the chips and sent them again, this time the reaction was overwhelmingly positive, so there was a delay in vendors getting on board, so a lot of what we are seeing now with motherboard shortages makes sense, vendors initially anticipated that AM4 wouldnt have so high a demand... AMD sorted Zen, Vendors are suddenly having to crank up production, this induces a lag which we are seeing.

With the early boards being sent out on immature bios, AMD has been beavering away getting updates to them to fix issues with compatability etc, there was issues with memory, issues with SMT also apparently.

Like the Iranian review leak, these current ones also reek of the same issues, immature bios etc.

I would even go so far as to say even the official reviews you see today should be taken as a starting point for performance and probably not the end product, i would expect more updates to come for the motherboards to fix issues and potentially increase performance.

Asus have stated 3800mhz support for the CH6, so when i see a mobo running on 2666mhz, and knowing AMD's IMC is a beast, it points to a bottleneck or issue with performance, resulting in reviews like the leaks we have seen. Once the BIOS is good and people are running Ryzen with memory over 3000mhz or so, you will probably see better results than you will today, unless the reviewers have motherboards with the latest bios with fixes to the memory and SMT issues.
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well said
 
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