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harney · 3 Mar 2017 at 20:55

Scramz said:
I have popped out, be home tomorrow however I got it to bench at 3.9 and 4Ghz at 1.3 volts no tweaking just a dirty set and go. Over 20k score on the multithread!!!

Temps in the 50's, real bench h264 5 runs 64c.... impressive!

B350 mobo too, 16gb 2400mhz RAM

That is what i like to hear and on th b350 too ...which one was it ?

labbby · 3 Mar 2017 at 20:55

woppy101 said:
With no ram error 46, with ram it does all it's error code self tests and then throws up error 0d

once again don't take what i say as gospel but when you power up and the green LED for boot stays on did it go through the cpu,dram, and gpu leds first ?

Panos · 3 Mar 2017 at 20:56

Davedree said:
Why are these boards not supporting hdmi2 ffs.

Because the CPUS do not have IGP so doesn't matter? While the AM4 APUS that exist from the previous gen, don't support it either way.

By the time we going to have Ryzen APUs, more motherboards will be out, and if is true that they will have a Vega and HBM on it, we going to see even DP on the boards.

Davedree · 3 Mar 2017 at 20:56

Panos said:
Because the CPUS do not have IGP so doesn't matter?

Lol future apus will

Undesirable · 3 Mar 2017 at 20:58

I wonder if the 6c will overclock higher than the 8c? Also, can you turn off 2 cores on the 1700 / 1800 and get a higher clock?

Panos · 3 Mar 2017 at 20:58

Davedree said:
Lol future apus will

Yes but currently they have no specifications for them. The only APU that can be fitted at this moment doesn't support it.
More mobos will come out during the year, to properly support the Ryzen APU.

RSR · 3 Mar 2017 at 20:59

It seems Joker has tested a R1700 Vs 7700K, as I noticed a few commented about low settings so not to bottleneck the the GPU.

Davedree · 3 Mar 2017 at 21:00

Panos said:
Yes but currently they have no specifications for them. The only APU that can be fitted at this moment doesn't support it.
More mobos will come out during the year, to properly support the Ryzen APU.

Bristol ridge aka carrizo2 supports hdmi2.0 and h.265.

Scramz · 3 Mar 2017 at 21:00

harney said:
That is what i like to hear and on th b350 too ...which one was it ?

MSI tomahawk

the wopster · 3 Mar 2017 at 21:02

Silent_Scone said:
Is the display connected and on the right output (have to ask).

All else fails, might be worth removing it from the chassis and retrying.

Yep done all of that it just sits on 0d, tried display port cable and hdmi, no display output by both

Panos · 3 Mar 2017 at 21:02

RSR said:
It seems Joker has tested a R1700 Vs 7700K, as I noticed a few commented about low settings so not to bottleneck the the GPU.

It was posted few pages ago, and created a heated discussion. Especially why the Tomb raider is running DX12 on 7700K and DX11 on Ryzen.
Imho we should be looking for 2560x1440 not 720p. Who's gaming with a GTX1080 at 720p? All of us using it at 2560x1440 or 4K where the Ryzen CPU is far stronger than the 7700K or my 6700K.

Panos · 3 Mar 2017 at 21:03

Davedree said:
Bristol ridge aka carrizo2 supports hdmi2.0 and h.265.

Idk. Ask the manufacturers why :/

At least Asrock didn't bother and the Taichi doesn't have any gfx ports.

eyetrip · 3 Mar 2017 at 21:03

Scramz said:
I have popped out, be home tomorrow however I got it to bench at 3.9 and 4Ghz at 1.3 volts no tweaking just a dirty set and go. Over 20k score on the multithread!!!

Temps in the 50's, real bench h264 5 runs 64c.... impressive!

B350 mobo too, 16gb 2400mhz RAM

Glad to hear that you got that on B350. Which one?

Panos · 3 Mar 2017 at 21:04

eyetrip said:
Glad to hear that you got that on B350. Which one?

MSI Tomahawk

Andy321 · 3 Mar 2017 at 21:04

Scramz said:
I have popped out, be home tomorrow however I got it to bench at 3.9 and 4Ghz at 1.3 volts no tweaking just a dirty set and go. Over 20k score on the multithread!!!

Temps in the 50's, real bench h264 5 runs 64c.... impressive!

B350 mobo too, 16gb 2400mhz RAM

Sounds promising, puts my mind at rest a bit about my board

gavinh87 · 3 Mar 2017 at 21:06

Not

Panos said:
It was posted few pages ago, and created a heated discussion. Especially why the Tomb raider is running DX12 on 7700K and DX11 on Ryzen.
Imho we should be looking for 2560x1440 not 720p. Who's gaming with a GTX1080 at 720p? All of us using it at 2560x1440 or 4K where the Ryzen CPU is far stronger than the 7700K or my 6700K.

Not all of us. Some of us are using at 1080 at 1080p because we're running 144hz monitors.
For that reason I don't think ryzen is for me

which is a disappointment as I was really looking forward to this being able to compete with Intel's offerings at every level, not just when smt is used.

Panos · 3 Mar 2017 at 21:09

gavinh87 said:
Not

Not all of us. Some of us are using at 1080 at 1080p because we're running 144hz monitors.
For that reason I don't think ryzen is for me which is a disappointment as I was really looking forward to this being able to compete with Intel's offerings at every level, not just when smt is used.

Yesterday the guy run a similar benchmark at 1080p with the GTX1080
You will see the 1700 @ 3.9 matching the 7700K @ 5ghz on all benchmarks across the board (some loses 2-3 fps, other wins 2-3fps). And if you see the Ryzen CPU you can run 2 games on it because half of it is idling.

And still while the issues with the Windows Scheduler exist, until Microsoft patches the Windows to support SMT properly. (by end of the months apparently).

Silent_Scone · 3 Mar 2017 at 21:10

woppy101 said:
Yep done all of that it just sits on 0d, tried display port cable and hdmi, no display output by both

Who knows. New platforms...

Use USB flashback and update to the latest UEFI

harney · 3 Mar 2017 at 21:11

gavinh87 said:
Not

Not all of us. Some of us are using at 1080 at 1080p because we're running 144hz monitors.
For that reason I don't think ryzen is for me which is a disappointment as I was really looking forward to this being able to compete with Intel's offerings at every level, not just when smt is used.

If you are able to sit on the fence for 1 or 2 months then do so ...things may change in the 1080p department once the scheduler is resolved with the corret M$ driver ...you never know ..if you are in a rush buy Intel

Also the 6c 12t may offer more freq ..will have to wait and see

StarShock · 3 Mar 2017 at 21:12

Panos said:
It was posted few pages ago, and created a heated discussion. Especially why the Tomb raider is running DX12 on 7700K and DX11 on Ryzen.
Imho we should be looking for 2560x1440 not 720p. Who's gaming with a GTX1080 at 720p? All of us using it at 2560x1440 or 4K where the Ryzen CPU is far stronger than the 7700K or my 6700K.

I think it's a more useful test to force a cpu bottleneck to actually show where the shortfall is. But people mustn't get carried away with the result. It's good to have more information to alow people to make informed choices. If you're building a machine just for gaming the 1800x isn't a great option. The 1700 and 1700x are better bang for buck for gaming and the 7600k and 7700k are the best pure gaming cpus. If you're doing more than gaming it's a different story. People seem way to interested in scoring points or winning arguments. Or proving that their choice is the best. What we have now is real choice, which means what's right for one person isn't necessarily right for someone else. Masking the differences to show one in a better light doesn't help anyone. Nor does writing one side off because it's a few % down in a synthetic test, which is what 720p gaming is.

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