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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

Interesting how the YouTube press is starting to sling mud around. There are some good video and articles about how low resolution gaming is not the be all and end all.

Yes if you just game and nothing else go i5 or wait for R5 and R3. But I like to use my PC for more than my Xbox.
 
Just watched that AdoredTV video and it's excellent. It shows why the low res is pointless to show the principle of future ability and all that really matters is true gaming benches with different CPU.

I think it kills the whole principle of low res gaming benches and we should just be looking at 1080p/1440p/4k benches with the fastest GPU and a mid range GPU and then compare those systems to really show what the CPU is possible of doing now and what we as games would actually get. So in honesty I would still say that the 1700 Ryzen is the way forward.
 
Lord_ZED said:
And still my order is processing :/ By the time them MB's get in stock new bioss will be out from waht i seen. Even if it comes tomorrow i wnt have time to put it together till Friday/Saturday.
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I just asked for an update on my order and by the sounds of things its the crosshair that holding everything up. They don't have an ETA for any more at the moment either. But like you say at least by the time we get what ever it is we have ordered hopefully there would have been a few bios's(?) to chose from.
 
harney said:
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Just finished that video, and is by far and away the most interesting one I have seen so far. He has some extremely bold statements in that video, and he has backed all of them up completely. I really enjoyed where he explained how AMD have been setting up multi core performance for the past few years now. Here's hoping AMD can actually pull it off.
 
In that video by AdornedTV where he was comparing the cpu usage of the 7700 vs the R1700 in BF1 the Ryzen still had 48% cpu left to tap which goes to show it will dominated the 7700 in the not to distant future and rightly so its pegged as a 6950X beater not a 4 core mainstream CPU.
 
That AdoredTV vid is great. Actual research.

Even with older games that don't use many threads, once the scheduling is sorted, performance is going to be absolutely fine on any realistic settings.
 
Interesting video from AdoredTV. I am hopeful the Ryzen 7's can close the gap with the 6900k in gaming as they clearly have the performance there.
 
Ok I got my gear this morning, and jesus the Crosshair is pain to setup out of the box. First it gave me a memory incompatibility error, in which I had to update the bios. Installed the latest beta bios and then it was giving me a VGA error. So I had to fallback to the latest stable bios before I could even get it to post....
 
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I happen to agree that Ryzen is the better chip (and the way forward), but the premise of this video seems wrong to me. It's simple maths.

2500 100fps -> 100%
FX 90fps -> 90%

10 percent gap. And then you add a new chip which exceeds performance of the original top performer, and becomes 100%.

new 120fps -> 100%
2500 100fps -> 83%
FX 90fps -> 75%

Even though nothing about the original has changed ... eight percent gap. Even though nothing about the original results has changed. All that has changed is the baseline result (the '100%') has slid over a little, widening the data set, thereby squishing the 'percentage of base result' readings.

Am I missing something, or is everybody just overlooking this?
 
Xenofell said:
I happen to agree that Ryzen is the better chip (and the way forward), but the premise of this video seems wrong to me. It's simple maths.

2500 100fps -> 100%
FX 90fps -> 90%

10 percent gap. And then you add a new chip which exceeds performance of the original top performer, and becomes 100%.

new 120fps -> 100%
2500 100fps -> 83%
FX 90fps -> 75%

Even though nothing about the original has changed ... eight percent gap. Even though nothing about the original results have changed. All that has changes is the baseline result (the '100%') has slid over a little, widening the data set, thereby squishing the 'percentage of base result' readings.

Am I missing something, or is everybody just overlooking this?
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When you hover over the bar it makes that one the 100% reference.
Link:
https://www.computerbase.de/2012-10/test-amd-fx-8350-vishera/6/
 
Dianbobo said:
Is it weird that there are shortages from every manufacturer of am4 motherboards? Did they all underestimate demand or is it something else
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Motherboard makers hedged their bets and didn't want to gamble too much. Caught off guard by how successful Ryzen is starting to look.
 
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