*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

[sonnytbh]

Flashed the F4 Bios almost as soon as mine arrive. Boot times noticeably faster, but that's the only thing I've noticed so far

Thanks, i'll try that later.

 

[zeam]

came across this article regarding AM4 and memory speed performance,

Couldn't see it posted before (thought i didn't check all 641 pages)

http://www.legitreviews.com/ddr4-me...tform-best-memory-kit-amd-ryzen-cpus_192259/5

 

[Scramz]

Is 4.0Ghz at 1.42v not safe or stable for 24/7?

Hows the temps and memory while running this setup?

Safe and Stable, I just dont want the extra heat for 100Mhz per core. 3.9Ghz gaming temps between 43-50 and all cores work 60's. RAM in 2400Mhz.

 

[SupraWez]

Has Linux been updated for ryzen support yet?

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/ryzen-linux-reviews-and-discussion.18771408/

 

[Armageus]

Off topic question here but I'm just curious.

Am I right in assuming that product releases for the server market can't be plagued with the same problems that desktop releases are? If it is aimed at professional use then I'd think that a flawless launch must be quite important?

A flawless launch is important, but it can be difficult to clarify what constitutes a launch with enterprise parts. A lot of the time the OEMs e.g. HP, Dell etc will work directly with their bigger customers (e.g. Facebook etc), so it could be that Servers with these parts have already "sampled" and out there for extensive testing/tuning.

 

[Scramz]

Ryzen TJmax = 75 - I never knew this

 

[sonnytbh]

F5 Bios just released for the Gigabyte Gaming 3.

Will give get it flashed in an hour or two once I'm back from work and have my new Noctua cooler fitted.

Hoping this brings some better memory frequencies, change log lists "Improves system capabilities"

Thanks, scrap my last comment ill go straight to F5 which I presume I dont need to do an incremental upgrade.

 

[Yaayuh!]

Ryzen TJmax = 75 - I never knew this

Source? I thought it was 95 °C?

 

[Scramz]

Source? I thought it was 95 °C?

In this article http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreview...iew-premiere-blender-fps-benchmarks?showall=1

And others say around the web.

 

[sidthesexist]

Source? I thought it was 95 °C?

Gamers Nexus mentioned something like that in his first Ryzen vid Iirc?

 

[Yaayuh!]

In this article http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreview...iew-premiere-blender-fps-benchmarks?showall=1

And others say around the web.

Gamers Nexus mentioned something like that in his first Ryzen vid Iirc?

I would hazard a guess that they got it wrong, probably incorrect sensor.

 

[Scramz]

I would hazard a guess that they got it wrong, probably incorrect sensor.

Does seem a little low

 

[Frozennova]

Does seem a little low

Not really max was, 65 or similar on Deneb/Thuban

 

[Yaayuh!]

It won't start throttling until 95c, so I'm not sure where the 75c came from.

 

[KompuKare]

Off topic question here but I'm just curious.

Am I right in assuming that product releases for the server market can't be plagued with the same problems that desktop releases are? If it is aimed at professional use then I'd think that a flawless launch must be quite important?

Yes, but the requirements are different.
Doubt anyone will be using 32C/64T for just Windows Server, so Linux and ESXi etc. support will be far more important. And with Linux they won't be dependent on Microsoft patching the kernel so support their CCX topology.
Added bonus is they will say we support DDR4 2400 ECC and that's it. Nobody will be bricking their boards trying to get DDR4 3200 working for example.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Has Linux been updated for ryzen support yet?

Yes it had support added before reviews,and that is why you should look at the two Linux reviews I posted in the review thread:

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/official-ocuk-ryzen-review-thread.18771143/

Look at the Linux and Server headings. OFC,there might even more optimisations in the future,but Ryzen is very solid under Linux.

 

[Curlyriff]

Safe and Stable, I just dont want the extra heat for 100Mhz per core. 3.9Ghz gaming temps between 43-50 and all cores work 60's. RAM in 2400Mhz.

You seem very conservative on the heat when they are rated to get to 80 degree before down-clocking. Any particular reason?

Edit: I was told 80 degree when I phone support to ask. It appears above someone is suggesting 95 degree. Either way doesn't appear the extra 10 degree heat would be any issue for the extra 100Mhz :/

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Exactly! Imagine if Ryzen/AM4 ends up simply being their Z270 line.

If Naples trickles down to the HEDT market in a year, but with an extra revision to the silicone and better refined 14nm process it would be absolutely fantastic.

Many enthusiasts that want an AMD workstation are a little put off by Dual Channel memory, and 24 PCIe lanes; and consumer cut Naples could be the answer.

I think the advantage of quad channel is more maximum memory support,so that will be what is more the selling point.

 

[Scramz]

You seem very conservative on the heat when they are rated to get to 80 degree before down-clocking. Any particular reason?

Just don't like such a jump in heat and extra strain on the system for such a small bump.

 

[Curlyriff]

Just don't like such a jump in heat and extra strain on the system for such a small bump.

I understand the premise of that, but there is really no extra strain going from 60 degree to 70 degree. If you was at 75 degree now and going up to 85-90 degree I would certainly agree but there no reason not to get it running at 4.0GHz @ 70 degree with no more than 1.55V from what I can see with anything provided warranty and support wise.