OK so only particular games (basically just BF1) currently suffer FPS drops due to the CCX configuration. L3 latency is higher and L3 cache tests certainly take a hit but that doesn't affect other games apparently.
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Before the latest updates that was a 22fps difference according to Hardware.fr Where as other games were anywhere from 3-8% differences in performance.
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/956-24/retour-sous-systeme-memoire-suite.html
Considering the difference in BF1 was now 4fps for dual CCX over a single, and essentially 0-1FPS in other games, the issue isn't really an issue anymore.
When he says things like "the fact that you need to base overclock to achieve 3Ghz memory doesn't make it a viable option", to me he seems like a bit of a tool, for one you don't need to "base overclock the CPU to achieve 3Ghz memory", others do it and more with the XMP profile, but even if you did, which you don't, it does not disqualify it from being an option, its like saying "overclocking the CPU is not a viable option cuz you have to increase the multiplier"
This Ryzen launch sure has weeded out all the buffoons amongst reviewers, there are a lot of them.
I don't trust him.
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Care to name and shame a few?
I just did
... i don't know, maybe i'll make a list one day, PCPer (probably no surprises there) is another one.I couple that i like are: Jay2Cents, Linus, TPU, AdoredTV
The odd thing is, Memory overclocks are still very motherboard dependant. Most of the reviewers that have issues with getting memory to 3000Mhz or higher are using Asus or MSI boards.
The Asrock Taichi, and Gigabyte Aorus boards don't have similar issues. Joker had his RAM at 3000Mhz on day one with his Aorus.
Level1Tech had high speeds with the Taichi as well.
On some boards you need to increase BCLK, but one other you don't.
We also cannot ignore that XMP memory has been tested and verified for Intel systems, and memory controllers. We've only seen G.Skill so far bring out AMD compatible RAM. Then again it seems most of their kits have had the least amount of issues once again also.
Level1Techs managed to get their 1800X at 4.2Ghz with 3200Mhz RAM ( 14-14-14-34 Timings) with their Taichi. This was March 8th for the video as well, and there have been other motherboard updates since then as well.
http://valid.x86.fr/u5xhc7
https://youtu.be/VjGWqTFultI?t=15m24s
I just did
I couple that i like are: Jay2Cents, Linus, TPU, AdoredTV
Indeed. That's the problem with YouTube, too easy to become a narcissistic wannabe tech person. Can't stand them. Even though I find Linus absolutely loathsome and annoying, at least we know he knows his stuff.
I stick to decent forums and reviewers that have the ability to write a decent article. YouTube has a plethora of trash.
I hate that so much stuff is on youtube now.
I just want to go in to an article and find the details I want quickly.
Having said that, I also hate sites that don't index their pages of info, but go for 1,2,3, etc. Or even worse, just Next/Previous!
I just want to go in to an article and find the details I want quickly.
Having said that, I also hate sites that don't index their pages of info, but go for 1,2,3, etc. Or even worse, just Next/Previous!
Computerbase.de are still absolutely Top notch when it comes to their detailed work. Just have to use the ole Chrome translator if you're not proficient in German.
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No like for Tiny Tom? He used to work at OC:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_SN80_V2GymyCWM2oTYTeg
I just did
I couple that i like are: Jay2Cents, Linus, TPU, AdoredTV
I used to like Salazar Studio, but he's become really cocky lately and it's all clickbait now.
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youtube has messed around with ad rates and so on. Its possible just to make that as a living they have to play to the crowd, clickbait and all
I just did
I couple that i like are: Jay2Cents, Linus, TPU, AdoredTV
When you consider PCper came from AMDMB.com which is where I first used them a lot, it could be a bit surprising
I did not see any reference in that video to a Windows update.
For anyone waiting on ASRock motheroards, I see this posted on their Facebook page this afternoon.
https://www.facebook.com/ASRockUK/posts/610711822452261
https://www.facebook.com/ASRockUK/posts/610711822452261
Yeah Linus is a bit annoying but yes he does know what he's doing.
Jay2Cents got his RAM to 3.2Ghz and another 100Mhz on the CPU with his Asus board after a BIOS update, apparently this BIOS is not out yet, its clear they are still working on ironing out the kinks, its improving all the time.
With comments like this you never know (regarding new BIOS). I was thinking, what he meant was that BIOS is not out yet as it's not on official website (but he used what everyone else is using beta from forum). And video was made prior to 1002 (which was out like the day after or something).Yeah Linus is a bit annoying but yes he does know what he's doing.
Jay2Cents got his RAM to 3.2Ghz and another 100Mhz on the CPU with his Asus board after a BIOS update, apparently this BIOS is not out yet, its clear they are still working on ironing out the kinks, its improving all the time.
Oh yeah he seems to be anti AMD no doubt. I believe he was another one calling joker out for his results too. And when proved wrong said nothing.....
I was talking about there being no difference between a 4+0 or a 2+2 config like there was originally. I don't know why this is.
it would be - I've recently used 6 or 7yr old tube of MX-2 for friends build as I ran out of everything else and temps were just fine, unless it sat in the sun, extreme heat, cold or tube wasn't properly closed I don't think these go out of date.