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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

PhoenixUK said:
it would be - I've recently used 6 or 7yr old tube of MX-2 for friends build as I ran out of everything else and temps were just fine, unless it sat in the sun, extreme heat, cold or tube wasn't properly closed I don't think these go out of date.
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I tested it yesterday on some paper and it was OK to spread, so I'll give it a go when my CPU arrives.
 
opethdisciple said:
I tested it yesterday on some paper and it was OK to spread, so I'll give it a go when my CPU arrives.
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just see what it looks like when you squeeze some out if its separated meaning comes out watery just mix it up with more out of the tube...

edit seems your ok then :)
 
humbug said:
When he says things like "the fact that you need to base overclock to achieve 3Ghz memory doesn't make it a viable option", to me he seems like a bit of a tool, for one you don't need to "base overclock the CPU to achieve 3Ghz memory", others do it and more with the XMP profile, but even if you did, which you don't, it does not disqualify it from being an option, its like saying "overclocking the CPU is not a viable option cuz you have to increase the multiplier"

This Ryzen launch sure has weeded out all the buffoons amongst reviewers, there are a lot of them.

I don't trust him.
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Lol he runs techspot and he knows more about PC tech than you will ever know. If anyone has bias it's you. Adored tv lol.
 
Has anyone seen anything regarding core unlocking on the lower end chips like the R5?

I wonder if they will be disabled by laser or if that isn't possible to cut off half a CCX in hardware and still have it work.
 
Anyone have thoughts on the x370 gaming k4? At £150 it seems a really good price for what it offers; I saw the Tech Deals video on it the other day and was really impressed. I'm trying to figure out of I can save some money on a less expensive board since the CPUs seem to top out around 3.8-4.0ghz most of the time. I was looking towards buying the Taichi, but if I can save the £70 I could grab a 1700 instead of the 1600 like I planned.
 
N19h7m4r3 said:
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so if we believe this video, the gaming issue isn't related to infinity fabric , meaning this is somehwat a good news, it's not a hardware limitation, and it all comes down to what AMD said from the start, game Devs optimisation...
so now let's hope all or most upcoming games show us a different picture, and AMD should push for some populaire games already released to be patched, online games will do that themselves.

ben90 said:
Anyone have thoughts on the x370 gaming k4? At £150 it seems a really good price for what it offers; I saw the Tech Deals video on it the other day and was really impressed. I'm trying to figure out of I can save some money on a less expensive board since the CPUs seem to top out around 3.8-4.0ghz most of the time. I was looking towards buying the Taichi, but if I can save the £70 I could grab a 1700 instead of the 1600 like I planned.
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1700+K4 or 1600+taichi, that's a though choice.
personally i would go with 1600 + Taichi, then upgrade to Ryzen+ next year.
but wait for 1600 reviews first, if it's way behind 1700, then K4 combo.
 
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humbug said:
Yeah Linus is a bit annoying but yes he does know what he's doing.



Jay2Cents got his RAM to 3.2Ghz and another 100Mhz on the CPU with his Asus board after a BIOS update, apparently this BIOS is not out yet, its clear they are still working on ironing out the kinks, its improving all the time. :)

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His results might be thrown off by the fact that the Ryzen chip learns. Its cache has that "AI" system that recognizes when you use the CPU for the same thing it's done before and starts tuning for it. So his second run on Blender might have been boosted by that.
 
AlamoX said:
so if we believe this video, the gaming issue isn't related to infinity fabric , meaning this is somehwat a good news, it's not a hardware limitation, and it all comes down to what AMD said from the start, game Devs optimisation...
so now let's hope all or most upcoming games show us a different picture, and AMD should push for some populaire games already released to be patched, online games will do that themselves.
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AMD have stated a week after Ryzen's launch that they've seeding a thousands development kits; along with partnering with Bethesda. I hope that means that Prey will launch with great Ryzen and Vega support.
 
Been using two of these boards myself great boards for the price ... Vrm's do get a little hot when you start pushing more volts for your OC but a fan directed at the VRM's really helps keep things in check ..still testing my builds ...

 
sityeuropa said:
What VRM temps do you have?
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Full load Aida after a few hours Amb temps 14 15c
At stock with a 1700 non x all is good below 55c

if i push 3.7+ with anything above 1.35v+ start seeing high 80's + 90's this was similar results of the asus b350 prime board too

place fan in the area blowing down.. drops it by 18 20 c not using software to monitor as i do not find them accurate so using 2 x laser heat readers yes these are not accurate but there doing a better job than software monitoring as this seems to be higher

To add ....closed case

Vrm's are designed to take 125+ but i like to keep them far from that ..

Will test more re this with a x370 with more vrm's when it finally decides to arrives
 
Got my stuff today and got everything set up, seems to work fine with my existing Windows 8.1 install. Played two hours of battlefield 1. Went with a 1700 and a Gigabyte AB350 Gaming.

I also bought this RAM to use https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...nnel-kit-black-grey-tdpgd416g3-my-076-tg.html .

Review of the 3000 and 3333 mhz stuff I found said they were single rank, so I took a chance. Happy to report that was indeed the case. Interestingly the review for 3333 mhz ram said it was Samsung ICs, have no idea as I haven't removed the heat spreaders.
 
JonSmith said:
Got my stuff today and got everything set up, seems to work fine with my existing Windows 8.1 install. Played two hours of battlefield 1. Went with a 1700 and a Gigabyte AB350 Gaming.

I also bought this RAM to use https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...nnel-kit-black-grey-tdpgd416g3-my-076-tg.html .

Review of the 3000 and 3333 mhz stuff I found said they were single rank, so I took a chance. Happy to report that was indeed the case. Interestingly the review for 3333 mhz ram said it was Samsung ICs, have no idea as I haven't removed the heat spreaders.
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Use AIDA go to motherboard>SPD it will tell you in there.
 
New version of AIDA64 released today. A prior list of in depth release notes included in the betas can be found here >> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?260770-Aida64/page14

AIDA64 Extreme Edition 5.90.4200 stable (Mar 28, 2017)

http://download.aida64.com/aida64extreme590.exe

Release notes:
  • AVX2 and FMA accelerated 64-bit benchmarks for AMD Ryzen Summit Ridge processors
  • Microsoft Windows 10 Creators Update support
  • Optimized 64-bit benchmarks for Intel Apollo Lake SoC
  • Improved support for Intel Cannonlake, Coffee Lake, Denverton, Kaby Lake-X, Skylake-X CPUs
  • Preliminary support for AMD Zen server processors
  • Preliminary support for Intel Gemini Lake SoC and Knights Mill HPC CPU
  • NZXT Kraken X52 sensor support
  • Socket AM4 motherboards support
  • Improved support for Intel B250, H270, Q270 and Z270 chipset based motherboards
  • EastRising ER-OLEDM032 (SSD1322) OLED support
  • SMBIOS 3.1.1 support
  • Crucial M600, Crucial MX300, Intel Pro 5400s, SanDisk Plus, WD Blue SSD support
  • Improved support for Samsung NVMe SSDs
  • Advanced support for HighPoint RocketRAID 27xx RAID controllers
  • GPU details for nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti, Quadro GP100, Tesla P6
 
opethdisciple said:
I understand that Ryzen takes dual channel ram. But what does dual and quad channel mean anyway?

Does it mean you can only ever have two sticks at any one time?
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It's how many "lanes" run from the CPU to the memory ranks, the number of slots is largly inconsequential. Quad channel memory controllers can address twice as many "lanes" (4), essentially a wider road if we continue the motoring analogy :p

Moar channels means moar GB/s, which is important in *some* (usually server only) workloads.
 
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