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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***
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lol
But still with the amount of money nvidia have made you would think there DX 12 api driver would be tip top
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ROTTR is weird - the internal benchmark hardly shows a gain especially with the AMD cards. Ran the very intense part of the game at the Geothermal Valley,and the RX470 4GB gained a decent amount of performance,the GTX1080 kind of sort did on and off. Some runs the performance would just crater randomly. It happened at both 1080p and 1440p and I figured out the card was running out of VRAM!
I think nVidia's problem is hardware, not software, the GPU just isn't designed for it, AMD GPU's are.
Lets just hope Vulkan can save us all ...i am hoping so as i would love to move off MS spyware collective suite v 10 and get onto Linux for gaming or even a Vulkan win 7 too but i am sure MS will do what they can to stop that ....
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In theory it would work. But history wouldn't suggest as much if we use OpenGL as a case in point.
possibly but wouldn't we see bigger issues in other DX12 games ..
oh..oh.. all this is getting me hyped up for Vega ..
Vulkan & Vega
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MS are pushing more of their software to subs,as opposed to owned,so wait until they start pushing subs for Windows...yuck.
If things move to Linux,that is £80 saved towards a better CPU or GPU. The MS tax is just way too much if you are building a budget gaming PC. Plus it will be less faff if your drive dies,to just dl a Linux distro instead of having to re-validate your Win license,etc.
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Yes and no, not all DX12 games are created equal, some of them use A-Sync more than others, its a known fact AMD A-Sync is miles ahead of Nvidias, AMD has hardware onboard dedicated to catering for DX12, Nvidias solution is more software orientated, anyhow best not to discuss it here or you will get swamped with the GPU section guys dragging this thread down lol
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This. But then we have to ask the question why?
What gain do they have by not putting as much work in to it as AMD.
Personally I think it's because of the philosophy of the companies.
AMD are always coming to market with support for features which the current market isn't demanding. They go for the future proof approach over current performance.
Nvidia are the opposite. They'll come to make with proper DX12 hardware when the gaming ecosystem is ready and the market is hungry. At the moment DX12 is a mess and DX11 performance still king. And this is where they excell.
No doubt the next gen Nvidia cards will have proper DX12 hardware support for things like Asynchronous Compute etc....
Agree
Licence & now Data mining among other things is why i want to move away from MS ...for me Win 7 was the last great product by MS
Yep I've got the 1.2 BIOS, haven't delved back into memory yet, just got triple rad setup for cpu so doing some poking with that. What OC/volts are you running on CPU? And did you change the SoC volts? (which I assume is the "CPU NB VOLTAGE" option)
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This is true, Windows10 is the beginning of their backbone to pave the way for a subs based windows, it was mentioned a good few years ago this will be the last version of windows to have a moniker after it, no more win95, win10, win11 etc, from here on in its going to just be Windows, they will deliver additional features / upgrades via a paid subscription, making base windows free eventually, this does away with piracy.
Everyone gets a free copy of windows but all the real features you want a locked behind a paywall subscription method, this way they just use their existing WSUS model to push out newer windows builds with the additional features you have subbed to.
What board ? and what mem?
MSI Pro Carbon x370, 16gb Corsair LPX 3200 rated
I am on Msi tomahawk and different mem but if it helps i set a xmp and then manually set the mem voltage to 1.35 ...then it takes about 2 bios post restarts and all golden if it does not work for you then relax the timings by 1
Also i found sometimes while i was testing and setting the mem @ 3200 it would post strangely too it would take ages and would seem if its failed but if you give it time it should post ...
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More improvements on the way for you guys
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-fixes-more-ryzen-issues-with-new-microcode.html
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-fixes-more-ryzen-issues-with-new-microcode.html
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Its already annoying - I had one of those Sandisk 480GB SSDs which suddenly went kaput last week(it seems to be a syndrome which affects them,as a mate had their one do the same). I only upgraded to Win10 for DX12 which in my experience seems very inconsistent and I should have learnt that lesson after DX10 and Vista(moron). Now I am stuck with 8.1 - I could reinstall Win10 but its locked to your hardware,but at the same time if I were to get a Ryzen 2 CPU next year(or an Intel one) I would need to buy a new copy of Windows 10 just to get proper updates.
Ha, my Sandisk 960GB went 8 weeks ago, on it's 9th month. Already started the RMA process last week, but after one confirmation email haven't heard anything back.