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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

cereal3 said:
Yep I've got the 1.2 BIOS, haven't delved back into memory yet, just got triple rad setup for cpu so doing some poking with that. What OC/volts are you running on CPU? And did you change the SoC volts? (which I assume is the "CPU NB VOLTAGE" option)
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I turned off auto and set my ram speeds at 2933Mhz, no problems there at all. Haven't tried to push further. Waiting until the BIOS's built on AMD's new microcode are released before I push the memory.

My system is pretty stable at the moment. 1.35 core volts, 3.8Ghz CPU speed. I left everything else on Auto and it passed hours of Aida64, lots of Cinebenches and some gaming. I will be interested to see what scores you get with Cinebench, My best score at 3.8 was 1511.
 
Samsung 830, <5 years old, PC is used everyday all day and still working like new, it even still benches read and write rates like it did when new....

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Panos said:
Ha, my Sandisk 960GB went 8 weeks ago, on it's 9th month. Already started the RMA process last week, but after one confirmation email haven't heard anything back.
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Hmm,my mate got his replacement reasonably quickly but that is not good news if they are ignoring people. Trying to run modded FO4 off a spinny drive is like trying to walk through quick sand - the old SSD is only 120GB.

humbug said:
Samsung 830, 5 years old PC is used everyday all day and still working like new, it even still benches read and write rates like it did when new....

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My old Kingston Hyper X 120GB is still working and that was from 2012 and I am still using it. Wish I had picked up that 750GB Crucial for just over £100 during Black Friday.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Hmm,my mate got his replacement reasonably quickly but that is not good news if they are ignoring people. Trying to run modded FO4 off a spinny drive is like trying to walk through quick sand - the old SSD is only 120GB.
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True. Hence I will be sticking with Samsung. Already the 512GB 960 Evo M2 is great, while the 850 Pro is still going strong since 2013.
 
Panos said:
True. Hence I will be sticking with Samsung. Already the 512GB 960 Evo M2 is great, while the 850 Pro is still going strong since 2013.
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It seems the older 250GB Sandisks ones are fine - some mates have ones which are over two years old which seem OK,I think the newer 480GB/960GB ones have some QC issue or design fault or maybe they cost cut something(dunno). Either way,going to invest in a alternate boot drive and whatever replacement I get will be just for games. The only SD card failure I remember having was one of the expensive Sandisk Extreme models too,which was somewhat annoying.
 
Panos said:
Ha, my Sandisk 960GB went 8 weeks ago, on it's 9th month. Already started the RMA process last week, but after one confirmation email haven't heard anything back.
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Oh that's two four posts re sandisk i have 2 960gb oh no ...is there any info on this ?
 
harney said:
Oh that's two posts re sandisk i have 2 960gb oh no ...is there any info on this ?
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Backup anything critical - me and two of my mates got the 480GB one and 2/3 failed. I even looked the week before using the Sandisk SSD dashboard and everything said it was perfectly fine and had loads of life left.

No BSOD,no crashes,etc. Then all of a sudden it died one day when I switched the PC on - pretty much what my mate saw. Tried the power cycle reset hack,leaving it for a few days not connected up,etc - nothing.

It seems to be a symptom of their 480GB/960GB drives - they can go from fine to kaput in a microsecond. I looked on a certain large US parts retailer and it had loads of people saying the same thing.
 
harney said:
Oh that's two posts re sandisk i have 2 960gb oh no ...is there any info on this ?
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What do you mean more info? Waiting the guys to let me know when the replacement will arrive if when I have to send them the drive.
As for if I had any warning before hand with the drive having issues none. Saturday morning at around 3am turned off the PC. 5 hours later it "wasn't there". The system couldn't see it, and luckily I had just got a 960Evo waiting for the Ryzen machine. Tested the drive on 2 machines at work, and another two at home (CH6 Hero and GA X99 UG in addition to the initial Z170 Formula OC) nothing. Hence started the RMA process.

Lost everything, including a lot of work I had done on the game making atm with Unity 5 and Vulcan. :(

Hence now having 5 Firecudas, taking automated backups and holding a weekly image. I do not trust drive RAID mirror. Have seen many horror stories with data been corrupted on both drives.
 
Panos said:
What do you mean more info? Waiting the guys to let me know when the replacement will arrive if when I have to send them the drive.
As for if I had any warning before hand with the drive having issues none. Saturday morning at around 3am turned off the PC. 5 hours later it "wasn't there". The system couldn't see it, and luckily I had just got a 960Evo waiting for the Ryzen machine. Tested the drive on 2 machines at work, and another two at home (CH6 Hero and GA X99 UG in addition to the initial Z170 Formula OC) nothing. Hence started the RMA process.

Lost everything, including a lot of work I had done on the game making atm with Unity 5 and Vulcan. :(

Hence now having 5 Firecudas, taking automated backups and holding a weekly image. I do not trust drive RAID mirror. Have seen many horror stories with data been corrupted on both drives.
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Pretty much the same experience of me and my mate. Luckily I had backed up some stuff already but I am on a slower connection so it was a pain to re-download stuff again.
 
shankly1985 said:
Really starting to like his channel, goes into much more detail then other so called big channels.

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When I initially watched some of this guys videos i thought he was a bit of a melon. But I think he is quite good now.

And his results! :eek::eek::eek:

Makes me a little concerned in an odd kind of way. Having just bought a Ryzen 1700, it seems I also should go AMD for my GPU as well if I want to get the most out of it.

Not because AMD have done anything wrong, but because Nvidia drivers wouldn't utilise the CPU.

However do we not think that this too is just an optimisation issue? I.e give it time and Nvidia too will improve their driver for Ryzen? It's in their interest after all.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Backup anything critical - me and two of my mates got the 480GB one and 2/3 failed. I even looked the week before using the Sandisk SSD dashboard and everything said it was perfectly fine and had loads of life left.

No BSOD,no crashes,etc. Then all of a sudden it died one day when I switched the PC on - pretty much what my mate saw. Tried the power cycle reset hack,leaving it for a few days not connected up,etc - nothing.

It seems to be a symptom of their 480GB/960GB drives - they can go from fine to kaput in a microsecond. I looked on a certain large US parts retailer and it had loads of people saying the same thing.
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Thx for the heads up

Panos said:
What do you mean more info? Waiting the guys to let me know when the replacement will arrive if when I have to send them the drive.
As for if I had any warning before hand with the drive having issues none. Saturday morning at around 3am turned off the PC. 5 hours later it "wasn't there". The system couldn't see it, and luckily I had just got a 960Evo waiting for the Ryzen machine. Tested the drive on 2 machines at work, and another two at home (CH6 Hero and GA X99 UG in addition to the initial Z170 Formula OC) nothing. Hence started the RMA process.

Lost everything, including a lot of work I had done on the game making atm with Unity 5 and Vulcan. :(

Hence now having 5 Firecudas, taking automated backups and holding a weekly image. I do not trust drive RAID mirror. Have seen many horror stories with data been corrupted on both drives.
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Damn that is not good to hear failing is one thing and hassle of rma ect but data loss not good ...i hope your able to get back on track with the coding...sry to hear ...
 
opethdisciple said:
When I initially watched some of this guys videos i thought he was a bit of a melon. But I think he is quite good now.

And his results! :eek::eek::eek:

Makes me a little concerned in an odd kind of way. Having just bought a Ryzen 1700, it seems I also should go AMD for my GPU as well if I want to get the most out of it.

Not because AMD have done anything wrong, but because Nvidia drivers wouldn't utilise the CPU.

However do we not think that this too is just an optimisation issue? I.e give it time and Nvidia too will improve their driver for Ryzen? It's in their interest after all.
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I hope Nvidia will improve performance on Ryzen, maybe there are other games that have this problem as well.

Also pcgameshardware have found out that the reason the 7700k is so much faster in AOTS is that the developers reduce the number of effects rendered significantly, if you use a quad core or lower. This is in gameplay only and without the user knowing.
 
ltron said:
I hope Nvidia will improve performance on Ryzen, maybe there are other games that have this problem as well.

Also pcgameshardware have found out that the reason the 7700k is so much faster in AOTS is that the developers reduce the number of effects rendered significantly, if you use a quad core or lower. This is in gameplay only and without the user knowing.
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Which would mean that either Intel have asked the developer to do this or the developer decided to 'optimise' for Intel but reduce the IQ.
 
I have a question, are there any Ryzen owners with AMD gpu's able to see if DX12 in BF1 is actually a usable option?

For me with a 3570k and a 970 it's horrible stutter in comparison to DX11.
 
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