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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***
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wow that cpu utilisation is pathetic to say the least, UT engine needs some optimisations bigtime no?
Yeah it runs like crap and even worse on AMD GPUs, since they baked Gameworks directly into the engine.
My Fury X use to net me ~GTX 1060 performance in UE4 games.
https://developer.nvidia.com/unrealengine
https://developer.nvidia.com/nvidia-gameworks-and-ue4
That's interesting.
If you see the head on video, the GTX1080 usage on the 6800K is bouncing every half second, and barely exceeds 75% but on a few scenes.
While on the Ryzen CPU is getting stuck almost always on 90-99%, even on same scenes the 6800K is on 66% GPU usage.
I believe we have seen again on another benchmarks, like that with either a 6800K or a 6900K bouncing the usage of a 1080 or a 1080Ti all over the place, while the Ryzen CPU was consistent.
Hence their engine is seen less usage on every year passing. Same applies to Cryengine (which is pathetic these days).
Personally preferring Unity for my project, and already experimenting with Vulcan on it. Is very powerful, always following the new technologies at very fast rate, while it has nothing to be shy off the other engines. On the contrary 5.5 and 5.6 iterations, make it the best engine out there. At worse, in par with the Frostbite 3.
When I finish my little game demo, there are going to be two versions. One for mere mortals, with pre-backed graphics (as is the standard for everything out there), and one with real time rendering, where Fury/FuryX is the bare minimum.
Hence their engine is seen less usage on every year passing. Same applies to Cryengine (which is pathetic these days).
Personally preferring Unity for my project, and already experimenting with Vulcan on it. Is very powerful, always following the new technologies at very fast rate, while it has nothing to be shy off the other engines. On the contrary 5.5 and 5.6 iterations, make it the best engine out there. At worse, in par with the Frostbite 3.
When I finish my little game demo, there are going to be two versions. One for mere mortals, with pre-backed graphics (as is the standard for everything out there), and one with real time rendering, where Fury/FuryX is the bare minimum.
What's the game about ?
Similar to Re-Volt
Just a big map as a demo for start. But going to be heavy on garden plants, day-night circle depending the time of the day the game is played. And it will support multiplayer.
I see it a learning project, experimenting even with VR, which isn't as difficult as it sound.
Hence I need something with many cores, because the 6700K wasn't cutting it, while 5960X/6900K/6950X are too expensive.
PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds CPU Performance & Gameplay Overview
6800K vs 1800X
Benchmark is irrelevant, it needs doing again at 720p minimum settings to be sure of IPC.
Similar to Re-Volt
Just a big map as a demo for start. But going to be heavy on garden plants, day-night circle depending the time of the day the game is played. And it will support multiplayer.
I see it a learning project, experimenting even with VR, which isn't as difficult as it sound.
Hence I need something with many cores, because the 6700K wasn't cutting it, while 5960X/6900K/6950X are too expensive.
Great Stuff
Any thing re-volt style gets my vote
I use to love that game ..
A good drainage subterranean level which you could have on one of the main levels would be great would be like Rc's in wipe out style
Great Stuff
Any thing re-volt style gets my vote
I use to love that game ..
A good drainage subterranean level which you could have on one of the main levels would be great would be like Rc's in wipe out style
Re-volt was a great game, of a great gaming year also. (1999)bit off topic about 1999.
1999 few games I remember :
Unreal Tournament (original), HOMM3, C&C, Quake 3, Descent 3, Alpha Centaury, Baldur's Gate, Civ 2, EQ, AC, GTA2, SC3000, Lands of Lore 3, MM7.
Not enough hours to play them all over the course of the year, while I was still playing UO. And a Diamond Voodoo 2 was working overtime on UT99.
Just to put in perspective, because 2016 was a dry gaming year. The Division, TW Warhammer, Stellaris (superb), Xcom 2 and the crap Civ 6.
And 2017 except the TWW2 and DoW3 doesn't seem having anything else worthy to play for me.
Unreal Tournament (original), HOMM3, C&C, Quake 3, Descent 3, Alpha Centaury, Baldur's Gate, Civ 2, EQ, AC, GTA2, SC3000, Lands of Lore 3, MM7.
Not enough hours to play them all over the course of the year, while I was still playing UO. And a Diamond Voodoo 2 was working overtime on UT99.
Just to put in perspective, because 2016 was a dry gaming year. The Division, TW Warhammer, Stellaris (superb), Xcom 2 and the crap Civ 6.
And 2017 except the TWW2 and DoW3 doesn't seem having anything else worthy to play for me.
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This is a really interesting video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN5mxFfkr7g
Love how this guy explains it all
Love how this guy explains it all
Yeah, very interesting stuff.
Especially showing that the IPC on the Zen is better than the Kabylake one, and all the data to prove it.
Hell, Kabylake @4.390Ghz, peak single core ipc 1.7 (7471MIPS), while Ryzen @3.847 peak single core ipc 2.59 (9042MIPS).
Which proves that Intel hasn't moved forward their 64bit process restriction (1 64bit + 4 simple instructions) since the era of Pentium D!
Something that the Ryzen doesn't have, nor even the ancient Athlon64!!!!!!!!!!!
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The saddest part is in the comments where he says he had time to do all this because he can't get a job due to lack of degree / connections. Shame as anyone who reprograms up an old game like that to test out CPU performance is clearly someone worth hiring.
Agree ..
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I misunderstood, thinking your post was in response to what I said, Sorry,
Personally I think Ryzen 7 is a solid platform to build a gaming rig around,
Like you I have a 4790k (or at least I think that's what you have, just spelt wrong in your signature)
so I have no need to rush into Ryzen but, as it stands now my next build will be an 8 core Ryzen.
I find it strange how so many onliners have been up in arms over Ryzens performance.
Unfortunately the onliners are wanting the 6 core to fight the i5 k's and the 4 core against the i3 k so they'll probably moan like mad anyway.
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you'll find the 1700x IMC will struggle to support above 2400Mhz ram at 32GB capacity. Have you tried it at that speed ?
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If you can't get it running stable at stock I'd send the cpu, ram and motherboard back and try the replacements, I wouldn't settle for anything short of boot and run when buying all new hardware, You may have a dodgy ram stick, dodgy motherboard or dodgy cpu and if you've got no way to test those components individually don't bother messing around in the bio's just get the parts replaced and try again.