*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

[N19h7m4r3]

On the brightside of July it seems at least for Passmark testing AMD have gained decent market share.
We'll need to wait for industry marketshare numbers; but that is promising somewhat.

http://m.cpubenchmark.net/market_share.html

 

[gavinh87]

On the brightside of July it seems at least for Passmark testing AMD have gained decent market share.
We'll need to wait for industry marketshare numbers; but that is promising somewhat.

http://m.cpubenchmark.net/market_share.html

That is interesting, for the first time in years intel have lost a decent chunk. Hopefully this will drive innovation.

 

[muon]

On the brightside of July it seems at least for Passmark testing AMD have gained decent market share.
We'll need to wait for industry marketshare numbers; but that is promising somewhat.

http://m.cpubenchmark.net/market_share.html

Is that Q3 data just 1 days worth given it is 1st of July today?

Hence will be unreliable.

 

[humbug]

On the brightside of July it seems at least for Passmark testing AMD have gained decent market share.
We'll need to wait for industry marketshare numbers; but that is promising somewhat.

http://m.cpubenchmark.net/market_share.html

If that pans out to actual market share... wow, in just 3 moths....

 

[N19h7m4r3]

Is that Q3 data just 1 days worth given it is 1st of July today?

Hence will be unreliable.

It's Q1-Q2. You can't look at Q2 until it's over; that ended today at 1st of July as Q3 begins.

You can clearly see it goes back as far as 2004

 

[muon]

It's Q1-Q2. You can't look at Q2 until it's over; that ended today at 1st of July as Q3 begins.

The last datapoint is Q3 though.

http://m.cpubenchmark.net/market_share.html

 

[N19h7m4r3]

The last datapoint is Q3 though.

Did you look at the graph data points? It shows Q1 2017 and Q2 2017 ending at Q3 for current lol.

Showing Q2 was when AMD went up UNTIL today.

 

[muon]

Did you look at the graph data points? It shows Q1 2017 and Q2 2017 ending at Q3 for current lol.

I did. How about you do that and read the notes below.

Q1 starts on Jan 1st etc.

So Q3 datapoint only started today.

• The Quarters are by the calendar year rather than financial. (i.e. Q1 starts January 1st)

 

[N19h7m4r3]

I did. How about you do that and read the notes below.

Q1 starts on Jan 1st etc.

So Q3 datapoint only started today.

Exactly. Not hard to grasp. It ENDS at Q3 because that's today. It clearly shows the markshare gain from Q1 - end of Q2...which is*gasp* today, the point start of Q3

Where else would they put Q2 data? At the Start of Q2?

 

[muon]

Exactly. Not hard to grasp. It ENDS at Q3 because that's today. It clearly shows the markshare gain from Q1 - end of Q2...which is*gasp* today, the point start of Q3

Where else would they put Q2 data? At the Start of Q2?

Why have they put Q2 data point above the Q2 point in the graph?

Have you done a graph before? That is what most software does. It does not interpolate between x-axis points.

 

[humbug]

It looks to me like the period from start the end of Q1 2017, thats what it says on the graph.

When did Ryzen go on sale, exactly?

 

[muon]

Well it will be easy to find out. We'll see if that final point moves tomorrow. If not you are right and if it does I am right.

 

[N19h7m4r3]

Why have they put Q2 data point above the Q2 point in the graph?

Have you done a graph before? That is what most software does. It does not interpolate between x-axis points.

It's On the Q2 line.... what's so confusing.

It looks to me like the period from start the end of Q1 2017, thats what it says on the graph.

When did Ryzen go on sale, exactly?

Ryzen went on sale 1.5 weeks before Q1 ended.

 

[muon]

We'll see. If that graph is updated tomorrow, then either a Q3 to Q4 line will be introduced or I am right and they are simply categorical x axis labels.

 

[humbug]

It's On the Q2 line.... what's so confusing.

Ryzen went on sale 1.5 weeks before Q1 ended.

Ah i see, so there was a small but noticeable gain for Ryzen in Q1 given 10 days worth of sales, but a huge gain in Q2 which accounts for a full quarter.

 

[N19h7m4r3]

Ah i see, so there was a small but noticeable gain for Ryzen in Q1 given 10 days worth of sales, but a huge gain in Q2 which accounts for a full quarter.

Yeah, I don't understand the confusion. It shows the marketshare gained Upto Q3, which is when Q2 ends. It clearly says it was updated 1st of July 2017; which is the end of Q2, and start of Q3.
So of course shows the marketshare gained/lost up to the end of Q2.

Edit, the data for Q1 also ended on Q2 start date, just like it does now for Q2 ending on Q3 start date.
https://www.eteknix.com/amd-gains-2-2-cpu-market-share-intel-q1-2017/

 

[muon]

If you want to understand the confusion, according to you logic, the last point here (switch to viewing it by year)

https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/inflationandpriceindices/timeseries/l55o/mm23

refers to inflation from 01/01/2015 to 01/01/2016. After all the line ends on 2016.

I can tell you it actually refers to 01/01/2016 to 01/01/2017. This is how 99% of graphs are drawn.

 

[N19h7m4r3]

If you want to understand the confusion, according to you logic, the last point here (switch to viewing it by year)

https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/inflationandpriceindices/timeseries/l55o/mm23

refers to inflation from 01/01/2015 to 01/01/2016. After all the line ends on 2016.

I can tell you it actually refers to 01/01/2016 to 01/01/2017. This is how 99% of graphs are drawn.

Yeah, I still don't see the confusion regarding the passmark one at all.

It clearly shows Q2 data from May 1 up to Q3 July 1st.

AMD went into Q1 with 18.10%, Q2 with 20.60%, and went into Q3 with 31.00%.

Q3 final data will be updated when Q4 starts.

 

[prjwebb]

Think of it as a date line rather than a data point. Q1 = start of Q1, not full Q1 results. Q2 = start of Q2.

 

[DragonQ]

The labelling of the graph is slightly confusing but basically think of the labels as being "period ending <date>", not "period starting <date>".