*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

[cheesyboy]

ESRAM has seen very little use from developers. If 32mb of ERAM could magically boost performance by a factor of 3 then why would the idea get dropped?
The Xbox perfomance is 1.3Tflops with DDR3.

Every xbox game uses the esram. They're getting rid of it because it itself has turned into a bottleneck due to its size (32mb) being inadequate for 1080p, let alone the 4k that the consoles are shooting for with their respective updates. It's just too small to cache the amount of data it needs to. That's why some games have such shonky resolutions (I.e weird, non-stndard sizes, used to fit within the esram cache limitations)

And, as well, the price of GDDR5 has come down significantly since the consoles release, such that on-package esram just isn't a good choice financially.

 

[Journey]

When do we think Zen 2 will arrive for Socket AM4 ? loving my 1700 but also looking forward to Zen 2 and higher clocks.

May next year, maybe June.

 

[jaffveyda]

I still hope that next generation of Zen would be compatible with current socket, draming of just plug and play with Zen 2

 

[Deleted member 66701]

AMD

I still hope that next generation of Zen would be compatible with current socket, draming of just plug and play with Zen 2

AMD have said AM4 will be good for at least 3 generations of cpu.

 

[jaffveyda]

AMD

AMD have said AM4 will be good for at least 3 generations of cpu.

Companies are saying all sort of things and then backtracking, fingers crossed that wont be the case here. Or the new revision wont be limited in some way on current mobos.

 

[humbug]

AMD have a history of supporting newer CPU's on older sockets, So AMD are just doing what they always have.

 

[jaffveyda]

Just benched by Ryzen 1600, how does this compare to other Ryzen owners?
I ma running Corsair LPX 3200 Mhz ram.

 

[chroniclard]

g

 

[humbug]

Just for interest sake.... 4690K @ 4.5Ghz...

 

[Yaayuh!]

My current setup 3366MHz CL14:



3466MHz CL14 Result:



3600MHz CL16 Result:

 

[humbug]

L2 is 2.5 to 3x as fast as mine ^^^^^ :O

 

[jaffveyda]

My current setup 3366MHz CL14:



3466MHz CL14 Result:



3600MHz CL16 Result:

Pretty amazing results tbh.

 

[jigger]

What memory are you using Rossi?

 

[Yaayuh!]

What memory are you using Rossi?

G.Skill Trident Z 4000MHz CL18

3466 and 3600 requires much higher voltage both DRAM and CPU, SOC. Settled for better latency at 3366MHz.

 

[chroniclard]

Can you disable SMT from windows or just bios?

Tried disabling it for Farcry 4 and got much much better FPS/GPU utilisation, guess its a slightly older game.

 

[Yaayuh!]

I don't believe it can be changed outside of the BIOS.

 

[chroniclard]

Yeah doesnt seem so, bit annoying switching it on and off all the time.

Guess I need to just figure out which games its better with off and on.

 

[nashathedog]

Hello, Has anyone got advice and suggestions on a M-ATX Ryzen motherboard please?

I've got a Corsair Carbide AIR240 and want one to fit that offers M.2 and overclocking

 

[Doobedoo]

Hello, Has anyone got advice and suggestions on a M-ATX Ryzen motherboard please?

I've got a Corsair Carbide AIR240 and want one to fit that offers M.2 and overclocking

Perhaps this will interest you? https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/asus_is_set_to_release_two_mini-itx_am4/1

 

[nashathedog]

Perhaps this will interest you? https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/asus_is_set_to_release_two_mini-itx_am4/1

It looks interesting but I was hoping for an M-ATX board. Cheer's though, I'll keep an eye out for them in case nothing appears in the M-ATX category.