Soldato
Bear in mind hes probably talking about a very high workload kind of stable. Other reviewers run cinebench and call that stable
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Bear in mind hes probably talking about a very high workload kind of stable. Other reviewers run cinebench and call that stable
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-2400G-vs-AMD-FX-8350/m433194vs1489
2400G +34% better than the 8350 & Hardly use any Watts
Caporegime
From that Stilt review: "Similar to Zeppelin, the frequency headroom for the CPU cores themselves is very slim over the stock frequencies. The typical, highest practical CPU frequency will be around 3.85 - 3.95GHz depending on the silicon quality."
Hmm...
Also.. TIM?!?! Didn't they learn about about this crap when Intel started using TIM instead of solderbah.
The APUs have used TIM for yonks - its because these are essentially laptop chips where coolers mounted onto the chips themselves is very common.
However,on Reddit,AMD did respond to it:
AMD Robert said:Before this turns into panic: the decisions you make for mainstream products are not always the same decisions for enthusiast products.
Soldato
Ryzen 1200 is an enthusiast product??
Caporegime
Its based on an HEDT die. APUs are based on dies made to service mainstream,ie,laptops and lower end desktops.
Inferring another chip down road maybe. 6 core slightly more CU's ect ?
Even more?
Low power APU's
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12428/amd-readies-ryzen-3-2200ge-ryzen-5-2400ge-apus-with-reduced-tdp
Low power APU's
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12428/amd-readies-ryzen-3-2200ge-ryzen-5-2400ge-apus-with-reduced-tdp
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No way that thing can do 4.5 with a sleep bug....
Soldato
The 2400’s are on OCUK
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/amd-...m4-cpu-w-wraith-stealth-cooler-cp-3aa-am.html
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/amd-...m4-cpu-w-wraith-stealth-cooler-cp-3aa-am.html
I keep my fingers crossed that everywhere else 2400G and 2200G will be the best selling CPUs, and the "mighty" Pentium will be given an exit in pension
Caporegime
Looks like 8GB of RAM should be more than enough for system memory.
Even if you only select 512MB,performance is not much lower.
Even if you only select 512MB,performance is not much lower.
Yep. Did TechPowerUp use the lowest possible settings or something for their tests? I don't understand how one reviewer can say it makes no difference and another sees a huge difference. Jayz did have other issues with his board though, like random BSODs, so maybe the poor 512 MiB performance was a motherboard/BIOS issue too.
Yeah, I think Jayz was trying to use medium settings to see how pretty you could make it - at that point the 2GB would have made more of a difference.
Either way I am going with 16GB of Ram - I want to be able to go to discrete graphics and then if AMD do stick to AM4 for Ryzen2.
Either way I am going with 16GB of Ram - I want to be able to go to discrete graphics and then if AMD do stick to AM4 for Ryzen2.
Caporegime
Jay didn't test it with 1GB, he just went from 512MB straight to 2GB.
Anyway... not bad.
Soldato
So what discrete graphics cards do we think compare roughly with vega 8 / 11?
Caporegime
To be honest, the R3 2200G looks like the best value chip of the two. SMT and the extra IGP cores found in the R5 2400G don't really justify the 67% price increase, especially as both are overclockable. Obviously those looking for the best IGP around should go for the R5 though.
Annoyingly the price point of both might prove a bit too high to really gain traction in bog-standard desktop PCs (e.g. office machines, home non-gaming machines). The i3-8100 is only £10 more than the R3 2200G and will edge it out in the CPU department, whilst the AMD APU's much better IGP wouldn't make a huge difference for these types of PCs and its overclockability is also mostly irrelevant. Right now the lack of budget Coffee Lake motherboards should really swing this fight to AMD's favour, but if they ever do come out the i3 might be a better choice for some.
Annoyingly the price point of both might prove a bit too high to really gain traction in bog-standard desktop PCs (e.g. office machines, home non-gaming machines). The i3-8100 is only £10 more than the R3 2200G and will edge it out in the CPU department, whilst the AMD APU's much better IGP wouldn't make a huge difference for these types of PCs and its overclockability is also mostly irrelevant. Right now the lack of budget Coffee Lake motherboards should really swing this fight to AMD's favour, but if they ever do come out the i3 might be a better choice for some.
Caporegime
The i3's integrated graphics are unusable as integrated graphics, they provide a display output and 2D gaming like Candy Crush or Bejeweled 2, that's about it.
These APU's offer similar CPU's with proper 3D gaming, they have no problem running popular E-Sports games at 1080P 60Hz, huge numbers of people will love them for that, they will and actually are selling in huge numbers.