*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

MP results for the Ryzen 3 2200G in OW,PUBG and Fortnite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gSrGlax2JM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NuZG5_sdsU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9WiseBU9sI

 

[humbug]

MP results for the Ryzen 3 2200G in OW,PUBG and Fortnite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gSrGlax2JM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NuZG5_sdsU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9WiseBU9sI

So qualifying this premise with graphics settings at low on all those are:

1080P 144Hz Gaming for Overwhatch
1080P 120Mhz Gaming for Fortnite
1080P 60Hz Gaming for PUBG

Yes i'm being a bit hyperbole but, come on...... running on a £90 APU, on its Integrated graphics.

 

[TallPaul1878]

I wonder if there'll be a way to get the APU to use 4GB of RAM to allocate to the graphics. It might mean higher presets are available to be used in game. Perhaps with the caveat of a minimum of 16GB of total system RAM being installed.

My daughter (6yrs) is practically addicted to Rocket League. This is now looking like a compelling part to stick in a tiny case and let her come and play a few games with me.

 

[gavinh87]

So qualifying this premise with graphics settings at low on all those are:

1080P 144Hz Gaming for Overwhatch
1080P 120Mhz Gaming for Fortnite
1080P 60Hz Gaming for PUBG

Yes i'm being a bit hyperbole but, come on...... running on a £90 APU, on its Integrated graphics.

Shame DDR4 costs more than the APU!
Thinking of getting one of these to replace my nieces 3330/7970 build but ram prices are just mental!

 

[Yaayuh!]

Shame DDR4 costs more than the APU!

Indeed. It’s madness that an APU costs way less than a couple of sticks of RAM.

 

[Scougar]

The APUs have used TIM for yonks - its because these are essentially laptop chips where coolers mounted onto the chips themselves is very common.

However,on Reddit,AMD did respond to it:

+ QUOTE about 'don't panic'.

Excellent Smithers, excellent...

 

[Davedree]

And get myself banned...

Replace the motherboard i added to the original link with this one https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...am4-ddr4-micro-atx-motherboard-mb-335-ms.html and the case with this one https://www.overclockers.co.uk/kolink-klm-001-micro-atx-case-black-ca-007-kk.html

You're already down to £345.

The other board you suggested doesn't have any display outputs at all, I don't think DVI/d or analog output is acceptable for this board either, this is where the problem comes into the 300 series boards, you have the Asus ripoff itx boards with no display outputs at all.
+ Various others with either just a hdmi 1.4 or no outputs at all. So hopefully the am4 refresh will sort it all out.

 

[jigger]

The other board you suggested doesn't have any display outputs at all, I don't think DVI/d or analog output is acceptable for this board either, this is where the problem comes into the 300 series boards, you have the Asus ripoff itx boards with no display outputs at all.
+ Various others with either just a hdmi 1.4 or no outputs at all. So hopefully the am4 refresh will sort it all out.

DVI-D to HDMI. Most of the boards I've used have pretty decent video out.

 

[Boomstick777]

A lot of chip for not a lot of money, the stop gap is installed and it's genuinely impressive. Still am going to look forward to Zen 2 + Nvidia 2000 series in the future, will seem like an even bigger upgrade when it arrives xD

 

[SupraWez]

Impressive

 

[Boomstick777]

Max temp under an aio so far is about 43c, during gaming and streaming youtube etc same time. Really can't complain at this price. Cheap ass budget pc building just got a lot better.

 

[Davedree]

DVI-D to HDMI. Most of the boards I've used have pretty decent video out.

If you only need 1080p/1440p display then yeah ok, but there's a lot of other compromises with that. Like I said hopefully the 400's come with hdmi 2.0/Dp 1.4

 

[jigger]

If you only need 1080p/1440p display then yeah ok, but there's a lot of other compromises with that. Like I said hopefully the 400's come with hdmi 2.0/Dp 1.4

Well you can run 4K over HDMI 1.4 no problem. Not sure on the DVI-D side but 2560x1600 works and IIRC the now odball 2880x1880.

 

[Chrisc]

When I originally bought my 1700ryzen I paired it with 2666mhz memory, it may have been a distinct lack of memory at the time, I genuinely cannot remember. . . Anyway, how much would my corsair 2666 restrict one of these APU's compared to say 3200 speed memory? My reason being, I am thinking of making an entry level gaming machine for my 8yr old son, whereby I could feed my ryzen some more speedy ram and use what I currently have for his machine.. Any ideas?

 

[Hotwired]

When I originally bought my 1700ryzen I paired it with 2666mhz memory, it may have been a distinct lack of memory at the time, I genuinely cannot remember. . .

The initial Ryzen models had good gains from fast memory but getting them stable on 3000+ was not reliable.

 

[Beren]

Windows is installing as we speak. It has never been easier to build a PC.

 

[redfist]

Quick question, haven't upgraded in a long time & game in a old 1080p monitor. Was thinking r5 1600 & rx580 upgrade but seeing these apus and taking into account the horrible costs for gpu's Would it be a good upgrade for apu's (current spec below)

 

[Chrisc]

The initial Ryzen models had good gains from fast memory but getting them stable on 3000+ was not reliable.

Surely with the bios updates 3200 is easily achievable now?

 

[Beren]

Windows is installing as we speak. It has never been easier to build a PC.

I knew posting that was a bad idea when I did it... I was lazy on installing too much at once without rebooting and managed to kill windows 10

 

[DragonQ]

The GPU in the R5 2400G would be faster than your HD 5850 and obviously support modern APIs like DX11/12 and Vulkan. The CPU would be hugely faster also, plus you'd gain SMT. In the current GPU environment it's certainly worth thinking about, especially as you can obviously plonk in a GPU later on if/when prices return to normal.