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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

I thought everyone does it, not niche.
And what is the difference for the assemblers between putting 2x4GB and 1x8GB except screwing everyone in the process? :confused:
I honestly don't know. Even the HP desktops my work purchases, including the one I'm using now, have 1x8GB. It's super dumb.
 
The fact that the vast majority of the target market won't overclock is an argument in favour of unlocking the chips, not against it. What products would it eat into? The R3 2200G is twice the price and a far better performer regardless of if you could overclock the Athlon 200GE or not.

At the low end of the market it would cannibalise sales of the 2200G or Ryzen 3 1200/1300 products - in the same way that the G3258 sold bucket loads despite the I3 being a better "long term" choice. Outside of Enthusiasts a "fast" dual core / 4 thread processor is still fine for the majority of users (e.g. facebook etc), and still viable for a lot of the casual/"e-sports" titles.

A lot of the smaller "boutique" builders would happily sell such pre-overclocked chips in systems making a profit for themselves and potentially starving AMD of sales of more profitable SKUs, and AMD are still in a vulnerable "rebuilding" phase imo.

Regardless of the chips actual target market, if they're locked then they can't end up in being used in other channels.
 
I would take this with a grain of salt:

https://hardforum.com/threads/the-r...-has-received-its-first-zen-2-sample.1967802/

The RTG has just received its first Zen 2 sample (to optimize for) and it's really impressive.

8C/16T

4.0 GHz/4.5 GHz

DDR4-3600 CAS 15

Radeon RX Vega 64 LE

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The good: It's already nibbling at the Core i7-8700K.

The bad: It crashes a lot.

The ugly: It crashes all the time. Some of the tests have to be run multiple times because they crashed before finishing.


Apparently, there has been some changes to the "interconnect" (wherever that is) that requires RTG to make changes to the video drivers and that why RTG is getting the sample.

never said that Zen 2 would only have 8C/16T, only that that particular sample has 8C/16T.

There may or may not be more cores. I don't know.

I know next to nothing about AMD's processor teams.
 
What do they mean, the new 7nm Ryzen is as fast as 8700K in gaming or the new 7nm Ryzen destroys 8700K in everything else, which Ryzen 7 2700 already does?!
 
OK Ryzen owners, I am after a bit of advice/second opinions.

I am currently running an X99 system - i7 5820k, 32GB RAM (2400MHz) with a GTX1080Ti. I mainly use my PC for gaming, video rendering for YouTube, capturing gameplay and general use. I game at 1440p with a GSYNC monitor, usually using whatever high/ultra graphics settings I can get away with.

Having had the itch to upgrade for a while, I've bought some faster memory which I intend to use in a next build and then sell the old memory. I did consider a Coffee Lake upgrade, but am thinking more of going Ryzen. In my case, I'd probably go 2700X although I'm even toying with the idea of going Threadripper with a 2950X!

The upgrade itch isn't going away so would appreciate any thoughts. In particular, I'd be gutted to get a 2700X and find that AMD release a 2800X to counter Intel's 9th gen.

Ta :)
 
OK Ryzen owners, I am after a bit of advice/second opinions.

I am currently running an X99 system - i7 5820k, 32GB RAM (2400MHz) with a GTX1080Ti. I mainly use my PC for gaming, video rendering for YouTube, capturing gameplay and general use. I game at 1440p with a GSYNC monitor, usually using whatever high/ultra graphics settings I can get away with.

Having had the itch to upgrade for a while, I've bought some faster memory which I intend to use in a next build and then sell the old memory. I did consider a Coffee Lake upgrade, but am thinking more of going Ryzen. In my case, I'd probably go 2700X although I'm even toying with the idea of going Threadripper with a 2950X!

The upgrade itch isn't going away so would appreciate any thoughts. In particular, I'd be gutted to get a 2700X and find that AMD release a 2800X to counter Intel's 9th gen.

Ta :)

2950x all the way, I absolutely love my 1950x it can game 1440p or 4k while streaming 1080p 60 for like 0 hit. In productivity workloads it's just ludicrous for a desktop cpu. Upgrades and i/o is just more than you will need it really is the platform that can do everything and do everything better than just well. Gaming wise there is literally only one game that has caused me any issues and that game is junk anyway (cuisine royal). One thing i can say for sure is that if you go TR you will not be disappointed, it really is the platform that can do it all and if you wish it will do it all at the same time with capacity left in the tank.
 
OK Ryzen owners, I am after a bit of advice/second opinions.

I am currently running an X99 system - i7 5820k, 32GB RAM (2400MHz) with a GTX1080Ti. I mainly use my PC for gaming, video rendering for YouTube, capturing gameplay and general use. I game at 1440p with a GSYNC monitor, usually using whatever high/ultra graphics settings I can get away with.

Having had the itch to upgrade for a while, I've bought some faster memory which I intend to use in a next build and then sell the old memory. I did consider a Coffee Lake upgrade, but am thinking more of going Ryzen. In my case, I'd probably go 2700X although I'm even toying with the idea of going Threadripper with a 2950X!

The upgrade itch isn't going away so would appreciate any thoughts. In particular, I'd be gutted to get a 2700X and find that AMD release a 2800X to counter Intel's 9th gen.

Ta :)

I think your current system will last fine until 7NM Ryzen TBH,unless after the sale of the existing parts it does not cost much,and you get a few more cores,which might make it worth it?
 
OK Ryzen owners, I am after a bit of advice/second opinions.

I am currently running an X99 system - i7 5820k, 32GB RAM (2400MHz) with a GTX1080Ti. I mainly use my PC for gaming, video rendering for YouTube, capturing gameplay and general use. I game at 1440p with a GSYNC monitor, usually using whatever high/ultra graphics settings I can get away with.

Having had the itch to upgrade for a while, I've bought some faster memory which I intend to use in a next build and then sell the old memory. I did consider a Coffee Lake upgrade, but am thinking more of going Ryzen. In my case, I'd probably go 2700X although I'm even toying with the idea of going Threadripper with a 2950X!

The upgrade itch isn't going away so would appreciate any thoughts. In particular, I'd be gutted to get a 2700X and find that AMD release a 2800X to counter Intel's 9th gen.

Ta :)

What is the 5820K overclocked to?

The reason I ask is the the 8700K isn't a massive leap when taking into account the overclocking headroom of the 5820K.

https://www.techspot.com/review/1558-core-i7-5820k-test-in-2018/

In gaming there isn't much in it.

2700X has similar arguments but does have a bit more video encoding grunt due to 2 extra cores.
 
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What's the best board to pair with a 2700X with a view to putting in a 3700X type chip when they land?

Running it with a Vega 64, I have 2 nvme drives and a 500gb SSD, altough only using 1 nvme at the moment.

WiFi would be a bonus but not a necessity.

Currently I have a CH6 with my 1700 but I'm tempted to just buy a 2700X right now just because. X470 better than B450 for pushing a 2700x? It will be cooled by a 280mm AIO.
 
What's the best board to pair with a 2700X with a view to putting in a 3700X type chip when they land?

Running it with a Vega 64, I have 2 nvme drives and a 500gb SSD, altough only using 1 nvme at the moment.

WiFi would be a bonus but not a necessity.

Currently I have a CH6 with my 1700 but I'm tempted to just buy a 2700X right now just because. X470 better than B450 for pushing a 2700x? It will be cooled by a 280mm AIO.

To be honest, you already have the best mobo for a 2700x unles you are thinking of getting a CH7.
 
I've got it OC'd to 4.2 GHz with a Noctua NH-D15S air cooler. I expect the sensible course of action is to keep the 5820k, but the upgrade itch is really bad.

Doesn't that overclock higher?

Also I've realised upgrading is boring at the high end. Overclocking under water is a lot more fun.
 
To be honest, you already have the best mobo for a 2700x unles you are thinking of getting a CH7.


AHH I should have stated the ch6 and 1700 will goto my 2 boys, and when I replace the 2700x that will replace the 1700 I'm giving them.

What are people's thoughts in the following

Asus CH7
Asrock Taichi
MSI Gaming 7
Gigabyte Aorus 7

My personal thoughts are the following

Asus CH7, after using the CH6 I like Asus boards although they are a little pricey

Asrock Taichi, I love the look look of this board and it has WiFi however I heard the bios is a mess?

MSI Gaming 7, steered clear of MSI products for many years as quite frankly I feel they are subpar garbage, poorly built, skimpes on VRMs etc and their customer support is horrendous.

Gigabyte Auros 7, not convinced by Gigabyte nowadays, they used to be reasonably priced with good features, I had a Gigabyte z87 G1 Sniper with my 4770k before I upgraded to a Ryzen and CH6 and honestly the Asus board just feels more superior in build quality. I feel Gigabyte boards are now overpriced and aren't well built, I could be wrong on bud quality though, not sure which of the higher end AMD boards have the best vrms etc.
 
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