Yea..your right..clearly Hamilton has no skill in a massively complicated/ physical F1 car that no one else has been able to replicate.
And Lewis Hamilton matches Michael Schumacher's 7 titles!
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After getting beat by Rosberg? I doubt that.
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A snooker player is basically 99% down to the person. Whereas F1 is the other way around and the percentage has gotten smaller and smaller as the years go on. 80's-90's were pretty much peak F1 where driver skills could actually make up for deficits in cars. George Russell's race in the Mercedes is a prime example of how the bias is. He went from back of the grid to basically winning a race in a car he has never used. Hamilton would never be on 7 championships if he stayed at Mclaren. Likewise if Vettel wasn't at Redbull we would have been looking at Mark Webber as a multiple world champion. Jenson Button went from back of the grid to dominating and winning a championship with Brawn.
Schumacher was exactly the same although his skill of what he did at Benneton and going to a rubbish Ferrari and making them kings was a great to see but he needed Ross Brawn and Rory Byrne to make that happen.
You will never see the likes of that again either as the manufacturers have their hands tied behind their backs they basically have one chance to get the regulations right and if they blow it up they are buggered for the next decade.
Like my other favourite pass time Manchester United. Everyone heralds Sir Alex Fergusson and not the players that played for him for the success they had over 25 years. Lewis is just a cog in a massive machine now. If anyone wants to be given plaudits it is Toto Wolff and his management of the team as Mercedes have been second to none for near enough the past decade.
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At least Ronnie’s not a dirty tax dodger 
At least Ronnie’s not a dirty tax dodger
And he probably still ends up paying less tax than Lewis!
Lewis needs to work on his tax dodging skills, he is doing a terrible job of it seeing as he is in the top 5000 tax payers in the UK. Needs to find a better accountant.
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Source?
It's been common knowledge for a while....
But still, beat him with the tax dodging stick all you like as long as the same energy is kept for the other British F1 drivers who do the same (Stewart, Button, Coulthard and Mansell)
Yeah, though to be fair I wouldn't blame Hamilton for that as things went that way long before his time. It's the reason I stopped watching F1 decades ago as to me there's no point in a 'sport' where it basically comes down to the equipment/technology someone is given dictating whether they win.
Err what?...hes been a test driver for them and has driven that car many times outside a race situation..what ar eyou talking about?
Being in the right car the right time is ALWAYS been F1 since its inception, a big differance was Hamilton moved to the Merc Works team and everyone laughed.
The whole "teams have teh car for a decade thing" is rubbish as well.
Just as well ROnnie doesnt have to work in a team eh?...his craptastic attitude even towards his own sprt and fellow players drag the whole thing down.
Didn't Fangio famously swap teams during the season to have the strongest car? The car has never not mattered
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No doubt that the car is a big part of it, but that’s the difference with F1 and a sport like snooker or darts where you’re the main factor in success.
If it were truly all-car then Bottas would be consistently finishing 2nd and challenging Lewis more than he does.
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I think that is the reason why 2016 was at least a little entertaining as was 2010 between Vettel and Webber because in reality you are only watching two cars battle it out for the championship. Alonso only really caught up because the two were battling it out.
He's been a test driver in the past but races for Williams now. He had to have his shoes cut up just to fit in the car. How easily he raced just goes to show how beastly the car is. Being in the right car has been true but in the past there has been two right cars or maybe even three in the 80's. Since 2009 there has realistically only been one right car. Senna, Prost and Schumacher won titles in the second best car. I would also argue Raikonnen in 2007.
Not "int the past" hes tested that exact Merc a few times now, an dyo uknow the fact that Toto is his manager doesnt hurt things as many have always said hes one of the most talented drivers.
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Still doesn't change how easy he basically came from last to race winner.
Button never dodged tax.i thought he stayed in UK paid it all.
Ronnie should never win a spoty - he's got a massive chip on his shoulder and has no empathy. He has a personality alright - just not an aspiring one you'd want your kids to follow. Same with Kimi, horrid human beings that people strangely think is cool that he pushes people to the ground. Maybe if it was their sons he was pushing around opinions might change.
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Button moved to Monaco in ~2009 ((it may have been earlier) You know, the year he won the WDC with Brawn and started to earn the big bucks) and before that he was in Jersey... While I'm sure the nice weather and stunning views played a part I'm sure he (and nearly all the other F1 drivers, with exception of Seb in Switzerland, another very low tax state) also did so due to the lower tax.
edit: Not that I blame any of them for doing so. If I could pick wherever in the world I could live I'm not sure I'd be staying in Bristol
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Button is just as much a 'tax exile' as Hamilton is, resident in Monaco and/or Channel Islands for most of his career - virtually no different to Hamilton. Strange that he was never pilloried in the media or questioned over his Britishness for doing so though.
There are times when I think Hamilton would've been better off flying the flag for Grenada but then I guess he's a better man than I am to put up with it.
The fact that he won spoty goes to show me it's a minority voice anyway and most sensible people don't comment on the matter. But like posting on the internet when something is broken but nobody posts their thingy is working.
The fact that he won spoty goes to show me it's a minority voice anyway and most sensible people don't comment on the matter. But like posting on the internet when something is broken but nobody posts their thingy is working.
Hamilton in 2008? He is the last person to win a WDC without the Team winning WCC. Kimi only won due to Lewis and Fernando fighting one another. Really he should've been a WDC with Mclaren much earlier.
I don't actually think his 2007 championship was that special.
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2008 is really the last year where two manufacturers competed. 2009 on has pretty much been who can get the rule changes right. It is sad that it has been over decade since.