Android - Slightly Hyped IMO

My phone works, didn't do this.

because there's a whole range of hardware and branded android. Some phones work, others dont. They should never of allowed customisable roms from phone providers. Just because yours work, doesn't mean all phones work out the box.
 
No, you need to install custom rom to make some phones work, because of phone company branding and in ability to program.

exactly and apps you can do on Apple, so the whole it's more customisable, is only useful for a few people on forums like this.



Apple where first, android should have included stuff like that. I still don;t have proper copy and paste on android. All because it's a stupid customisable os and so you don;t get instant updates from android themself.

The only handsets I have seen with crappy branding are Orange ones but their network isn't the most favoured to begin with anyway and they have a reputation of branding all kinds of handsets not just Android. Unless you mean the UI in which case MotoBLUR is horrible etc, but like I mention below, just use another launcher, problem solved.

The beauty of Android is if you install a new launcher and set it as the default then the background launcher (SenseUI for example) won't consume resources as it's no longer active and won't take over at startup when you reboot.

I think a lot of people still don't want to accept Android yet and because of this they don't fully understand its scope.

If a manufacturer fouls a phone (Samsung on SGS, for example with various issues, then that's not Android's fault, that would be like blaming Microsoft for a slow OS because HP decided to install McAfee out of the box on it. But hey, you can uninstall it and use something else.

I had 2 iPhone 4s for the Christmas weekend and I exhausted what I could do with them, the only thing that struck out as awesome was the camera so I used the camera to record HD videos of Gingerbread on my Desire.
 
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because there's a whole range of hardware and branded android. Some phones work, others dont. They should never of allowed customisable roms from phone providers. Just because yours work, doesn't mean all phones work out the box.
So what you're telling me is that phone companies sell phones that don't work... Who would keep such a phone?
 
So what you're telling me is that phone companies sell phones that don't work... Who would keep such a phone?

most people, as it's things like mp3s wont play with out skiping and solved by a new rom.

I understand it's scope and use it on phone and tablet. But it has massive down points. The scope isn't needed. Customisation isn't needed for the general public. But then views on here are always twisted as we are technically minded. What's needed is stuff that just works and works well out the box, something that android struggles with due to the way they market and wont restrict anything.
As I said it's still a good OS, but it is over hyped and it has some serious pitfalls.
 
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You make it sound like everyone has those issues if they don't install anew ROM. Some people have issues, most people do not. Some of those with issues install a new ROM and it's solved, no more issue. Those that don't have problems carry on as if nothing ever happened and go about their business enjoying their phone...
 
Well that goes for any phone in the world out to buy today, there are crappy phones that load slowly and are half baked by branding and there are awesome phones.

This is not something limited to Android.
 
Well that goes for any phone in the world out to buy today, there are crappy phones that load slowly and are half baked by branding and there are awesome phones.

This is not something limited to Android.

apart from apple, WP7 and I imagine blackbrerry as well. no branding and only certain hardware can be used, so all the main competition.
 
Yes and that's why they're losing market share and userbase.

But yes, having a closed system means devices are fluid throughout.

It also means a competitor with an open system and an established track record, Google, for example, will leapfrog them like is happening right this very moment.

Look at CES, Android this, Android that. The buzz word is Android when it comes to mobile communications and connectivity.
 
we will wait and see how it pans out.
There's certainly no leapfrogging yet, especially as wp7 is so new. Symbian still has the biggest share by a massive amount. Apple have a limited market, but secure market.
 
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What can I say, my Desire worked very well out of the box. Only reason I rooted it was to play around with more stuff and to improve the battery life by streamlining the installed software. Even the stock experience on the Desire with Sense was good, and I still find the improved HTC mail app invaluable. I also never had problems with the music player, although I now used Cubed as I prefer it.
 
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East Asia I imagine Nokia thrive still but they're hardly at the forefront of the smartphone phone segment like the USA/Europe though surely.

If you see the comScore data, Nokia are at the bottom with 7.6% subscriber share in August 2010 and dropping to 7.2 in November. They don't even show up in the actual Smartphone category.
 
Yes through apps, not fiddling with roms or other android only customisation. most peopel do not want to get down to the nity and gritty. This is something.

There's no need to fiddle with ROMs, I'm currently running a stock ROM. The only reason I have root access is to perform system image backups. The root access is adding zero core functionality.

On android I've had many many apps that have crashed, don;t work etc.
Yes the o2 app was dodgy on iphone, but it's only a couple.

Well like I said, I've hardly had any issues. When I first bought my HTC Desire I hated the Android Market, but now, pretty much all the applications on the iPhone I had, are now on Android.

because it's only a basic screening and doesn't pick everything out, darn site better than no screening though

Really those are up points, loads of free services on iphone which are great and do all that.

MobileMe is Apples cloud syncing service from device to device, this is not free. Free WiFi tethering on the iPhone requires Jailbreak, or you have to pay your carrier.

Unfortunately to make phones work you have to do this, because android is not standard and filled with company rubbish. That's the point, iphone sis one OS, not an os that then phone companies butcher, they can;t program and never have been able to.

As I said above, my Desire is running a completely stock ROM and is more feature rich than my iPhone ever was. There are parts of the iPhone I do miss, but overall, I can do more on the Desire.

I've not had to install any custom ROMs in order to get the best out of this phone.

Or you just can't see the issue.

I can see the issues just fine, there are issues with Android, just like there are issues with the iPhone and iOS.

However, I can appreciate that and don't go out all guns blazing about how either of them are over hyped.
 
What version of Symbian is that survey talking about? Considering that even the HTC Magic got the FroYo update means hardly any old Android phones are still running the old OS, some are but the most popular ones certainly are not.

Look at how many absolutely terrible phones are out there running Symbian, loads!
 
There's tons of great browsers around for Android, xScope is still my fav and firefox/opera mobile, once out of beta, are similar to safari. Don't forget to set flash plugin to 'on demand' for the best performance.

It is set to "on demand", but still feels laggy, sluggish and buggy. Where as the iphone browser felt smooth and I felt in control with pinch n zoom.

Anyways, i'm keeping my galaxy s
 
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