Why use robots? Just implant muliple peni on giants and shag their way out of any problems
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~*Anime*~ fans rejoice : Japan to produce real Gundam
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Jumping Mechs with thermal scanners and ecm jammers >> Cheap jeeps with cheap ATGWs.
So in your opinion the spitfire was enough?
The lee enfield was all we needed?
Marching men forward at walking pace is perfectly normal for war?
You do realise that back when first tanks were invented, they were slow lumbering beasts prone to overheating and uncomfortable to operate. They took ages to crawl over the battle field. What made them effective? Not much but the sight of them.
It can be the same for the GUNDAM. xD
Mechs are already obsolete, the fact we didn't have the tech to make them back when they could have been useful doesn't mean we should build them now.
Battleships were great but their awesome armour is nothing to air bombers, missiles or torpedo submarines and their massive artillery fire-power useless in a world of missiles. Tanks too have had their day, they still have their uses but on the whole fast moving lightly armoured vehicles are better than slow heavy armoured ones due to more advanced explosives reducing the effectiveness of armour.
The just isn't a place for a mech on the modern battlefield, they would be too easy to destroy.
I can tell you have never watched Armored Trooper VOTOMS.
Mechs can be repurposed for all sorts of sorties much like multirole fighter jets.
Tanks may have been unreliable and uncomfortable, however they were designed to cross entrenched, often impassable battlefields and withstand the weapons at the time and act as armoured vehicles for troops and breaking down enemy lines in what was effectively a stalemate of trench warfare.......something that they did effectively.
Giant Robots today would be extremely vulnerable to modern weaponry, have very little application in a modern battlefield or any of our current combat theatres, and given our current level of technology any kind of military application for a giant robot would be obsolete before it was put into production.
Most of our current kit is vulnerable to outdated weaponry so what is your point? Otherwise we wouldn't have a problem in Afghanistan/Iraq.
Sorry mag, I'm derailing the thread. :<
Soldato
I'd have thought that there wouldn't really be any suitable power source available yet to be able to produce something approximating a Gundam, at least not in a package size capable of running it for a reasonable time and still being light enough to move around quickly.
I would expect them to be working more on a power suit sort of thing with light armour and communications / sensor devices and maybe exo-skeleton boosting for faster movement so you could keep small fast moving teams of soldiers rather than large lumbering vehicles, think more like the power armour in something like the original Starship Troopers book. Something thats not much bigger than the soldiers themselves.
I would expect them to be working more on a power suit sort of thing with light armour and communications / sensor devices and maybe exo-skeleton boosting for faster movement so you could keep small fast moving teams of soldiers rather than large lumbering vehicles, think more like the power armour in something like the original Starship Troopers book. Something thats not much bigger than the soldiers themselves.
Soldato
In this debate I call people's attention to Exhibit A: The mech suit from District 9.
It pwned.
It pwned.
The point is that you do not spend billions of dollars on developing and producing military hardware that doesn't specific serve a purpose or fill a gap in the combat effectiveness of modern combat operations.....the example of Afghanistan is a case in point....as the conflict has progress so has the effectiveness of the weapons and vehicles being developed for that combat theatre and the changing tactics and nature of the enemy......giant robots would serve very little purpose in any of the modern arenas and the value of such a weapon would be largely redundant and not at all cost effective.
It would be better to use the money to develop better anti personal weapons and personal lightweight armour, better detection and defensive equipment based, not on a weapon of very specialised and limited use, but on the type of combat operations that the modern arena demands.....big anti-material weapons are not what is needed, but small mobile and anti personal weapons are......
I think someone mentioned Battleships earlier....well Gundams are akin to Battleships in that the modern warfare we see today had no need for such mass destruction weapons (we already have better, more cost effective and combat effective weapons of mass destruction) and a Gundam is redundant as an effective piece of military hardware before it has even been built.
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Associate
The point is about the notion that it is for that age bracket. Not it's introduction. People are often misguided about anime. Relying on presumptions and assumptions based off little experience or fact. It's no better than the bandwagon jumpers over at mumsnet.
Anime is individual, some are for kids, some are not. Some are for both. I personally believe there's an anime for everyone out there. Regardless of age.
p.s. And yes, there's a bit of weird anime out there, the weirder stuff gets publicised in western media, it pales in comparison to the normal kind.
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Caporegime
Brilliant.
Soldato
What we need are titans.
Didn't stop the Americans trying to make the F22, nor did it stop the production of the Typhoon.
Why do we need these when we have nukes?
A Gundam can fight in space (anime wise) and can also act as an artillery unit. The idea is they are stronger than a tank and can either be faster or heavier armoured than a tank. Gundam Age would be a good example as they retro fit the Gundam for different battles.
Armoured suits, like Elementals, would be far better. Anything bigger would probably only be of use against civil unrest where the majority of the population didnt have access to advanced weaponry. The sheer moral sapping effectiveness of even a Locust lumbering towards a rioting group would be a spectacle to behold!
Didn't stop the Americans trying to make the F22, nor did it stop the production of the Typhoon.
Why do we need these when we have nukes?
A Gundam can fight in space (anime wise) and can also act as an artillery unit. The idea is they are stronger than a tank and can either be faster or heavier armoured than a tank. Gundam Age would be a good example as they retro fit the Gundam for different battles.
Yeah, like we have loads of battles in Space......or use tanks all the time anymore....
Associate
LOL
In the modern battelfield stealth is key. With rockets that target via LOS, radar, IR etc if you are seen you are DEAD. So small size, or radar / thermal / visual "steath" technology is key.
Robots in the future yes (If power issues can be resolved), giant robots NO!
Sorry!
In the modern battelfield stealth is key. With rockets that target via LOS, radar, IR etc if you are seen you are DEAD. So small size, or radar / thermal / visual "steath" technology is key.
Robots in the future yes (If power issues can be resolved), giant robots NO!
Sorry!