Soldato
Some major arse licking going on in that thread :/
Another Norris Designs Evo wrecked !
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Don't you just love all the keyboard heroes on this thread, 90% of which would have cried for mummy if something like that had happened to them.
Simon "did what he could" to lessen the impact for himself when it all went pear shaped.
So what if he was driving aggressively, it's ****ing racing, you don't drive like a pansy if you want to get at / stay at the front!
Maybe doing a little grass tracking a lap or so before, (when the red one took out the bollards, and I see no one complaining he was "over cooking it" whilst in front!!) ripped off a front brake hose and so the fluid started to drain away.... It's all conjecture and not something anyone should be arguing about on the internet.
Si is a nice bloke with a fairly deep pockets and I'd expect to see him offer a bit of cash to help repair the red one, maybe not even publicly, as to be honest it's sweet FA to do with anyone else.
MOTORSPORT IS DANGEROUS, get over it.
Simon "did what he could" to lessen the impact for himself when it all went pear shaped.
So what if he was driving aggressively, it's ****ing racing, you don't drive like a pansy if you want to get at / stay at the front!
Maybe doing a little grass tracking a lap or so before, (when the red one took out the bollards, and I see no one complaining he was "over cooking it" whilst in front!!) ripped off a front brake hose and so the fluid started to drain away.... It's all conjecture and not something anyone should be arguing about on the internet.
Si is a nice bloke with a fairly deep pockets and I'd expect to see him offer a bit of cash to help repair the red one, maybe not even publicly, as to be honest it's sweet FA to do with anyone else.
MOTORSPORT IS DANGEROUS, get over it.
It's nothing to do with how aggressively he is driving. It is how crap his car control, lines, positioning et cetera are.
'Nice blokes' don't threaten people over the internet...
Nor do they threaten to headbut people in person.
Nor do they charge over the odds for shonky work then refuse to fix it.
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Soldato
oooo get you. Hes a fool with too much money and not enough driving talent. Unfortanly he films himself showing off this lack of talent and shows himself up to be a fool with the way he speaks to people.
Soldato
Boom headshot, as it were.
Just because people do not like his driving, do not like his attitude and business etiquette, does not mean they are jealous of him.
His driving seems wild and even reckless at times.
I agree that there is a lot of conjecture from people who don't race, and who aren't in motorsport but this is a discussion forum. And discuss we shall.
Theres no need to get your knickers in a twist, just because you obviously know and/or idolise the guy.
Plus, whether he makes it public whether he helps the red evo's owner out is irrelevant. Just like the 106, if he doesn't it will get out, and regardless of fault, it will be bad for his business.
So to sum up, like you did:
THIS IS A DISCUSSION FORUM, get over it.
Have a smashing day.
It is a race environment, I cant imagine driving a powerful turbo car being the smoothest of experiences either.
I think I agree on the keyboard warrior comment too. A lot of people seem to base their opinion on the guy on what they have heard from others.
Still though, I enjoyed the video
Although he was only infront due to much more power, the red car was dmuch quicker in corners and through braking
I think I agree on the keyboard warrior comment too. A lot of people seem to base their opinion on the guy on what they have heard from others.
Still though, I enjoyed the video
Although he was only infront due to much more power, the red car was dmuch quicker in corners and through braking
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That's the point: While he has enough ability to string together a fastest lap of the day or to do well at a sprint, he lacks the racecraft and smoothness essential for racing. His car is (was) far faster than the rest of the field yet his ham-fisted approach meant he lagged behind.
Perhaps a season or two learning that smoothness, how to pick lines and apexes, how to move through traffic, and how to operate the controls smoothly and precisely in a much slower car would help him enormously.
But hey, I must just be jealous of his wallet...
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And put yourself in his position, joe bloggs with a fat wad of money, why not have the most powerful, best handling car and give yourself a decent chance of winning some cups when all your limited by is your own talent.
Better than suffering with crappy old stuff thats holding your ability back if you can afford better!
Better than suffering with crappy old stuff thats holding your ability back if you can afford better!
Most clubman-level championships with classes are structured so that it isn't always the fastest driver/the driver with the fastest car which wins the championship.
Say you have Classes A-D. All drivers in each class race to win that class. The driver who wins class C may finish the season on 120 points through consistancy. The driver who wins class A may finish the season on 90 points due to having a really fast car but sticking it into the grass four times during the season.
The driver who won class C would win the overall championship.
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Soldato
Id use that money to become the best driver i possibly could.. Not to just pay to win.
Soldato
Indeed. If you are going to do something and have the time and money, why not do it properly.
I'd be getting myself trained by some of the best out there.
Where did I put Tsuchiya's number again.........
According to Mr Norris they are roughly equal on power but Norris has about an extra 6-800RPM due to higher rev limiter.
I'd agree it doesn't look like it on track though, Norris flys away on straights and gets reeled in on corners + under braking......
Soldato
How is that any different, you are still using your money to influence the result. If you spent a shed load of money getting lessons from the best drivers in the world, you are still buying a potential advantage from those people that couldnt afford to.
With all the money in the world, you could buy the best tuition but might never win a thing, just like having the most powerful/best car means you might never win a thing.
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It is a race environment, I cant imagine driving a powerful turbo car being the smoothest of experiences either.
I think I agree on the keyboard warrior comment too. A lot of people seem to base their opinion on the guy on what they have heard from others.
Still though, I enjoyed the video
You don't need to copy other peoples opinions, all you need are eyes to see that he isn't what you would call a good race driver!
Looking at the performance on the straights they cannot be around the same power, and with my limited knowledge of cars/engines i'm sure 6-800rpm doesn't make THAT much difference.
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At times he makes it look like he's fighting the car rather than working with it, but then I expect it's a bit of an armful when you're really going for it.
Not sure there was a lot he could have done there really, you hear him pump the brakes a good few times before he bins it, by that point the poop is already spilling out of the collar of your race suit and I expect he just lobbed it at the scenery hoping he'd miss everyone and everything.
I think what people are getting worked up about is his attitude after this and the last incident - he doesn't seem to be particularly good at reasoned response and snaps back in quite a thuggish manner at any criticism, which is never going to put him in a good light.
It would be like me posting a pic of my new car, someone not liking it, and me respondind with "Right then, come on round and I'll do you over"
Not sure there was a lot he could have done there really, you hear him pump the brakes a good few times before he bins it, by that point the poop is already spilling out of the collar of your race suit and I expect he just lobbed it at the scenery hoping he'd miss everyone and everything.
I think what people are getting worked up about is his attitude after this and the last incident - he doesn't seem to be particularly good at reasoned response and snaps back in quite a thuggish manner at any criticism, which is never going to put him in a good light.
It would be like me posting a pic of my new car, someone not liking it, and me respondind with "Right then, come on round and I'll do you over"
Indeed.
Having driven Combe lots yourself and being a decent driver, surely you've got to admit some of his lines are........bizzare? His steering leaves a lot to be desired too, a lot of the time he seems to go for the apex to early then wind off some lock to compensate, only to have to put it back on again a fraction of a second later.
Having said that, as far as this crash goes I'm not sure what he could have done differently. I probably would have dived for the infield in that situation too.
There is probably a lot of that going on in here, but speaking for myself I'm basing my opinion on the one time I spoke to him in person, his attitude stunk.
Still though, I enjoyed the video
Yep, the guy in the red car was clearly the better driver.
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Soldato
All the Evo's there run about 580bhp or so (gt35r's) 
Simons at last race was about 570, guess he has had a play and got a little more power now.
The last race is here http://www.norrisdesigns.com/videos/new-9.wmv
Simons at last race was about 570, guess he has had a play and got a little more power now.
The last race is here http://www.norrisdesigns.com/videos/new-9.wmv
+1... You don't sit around chatting in the gravel trap, your job is to get out of the car and out of the way, and let the marshalls do their job. (I don't race, I'm too ****, done a spot of marshalling and pitwork, but I've seen drivers get torn apart by race control for NOT getting clear of the circuit after a crash, even when they've been assisting marshalls)
Gerbil seems to be a pretty objectionable feller... Seems like the classy thing to do after someone has a huge crash is to not instantly put the boot in. But responding with threats of violence? Not cool. And it wasn't just heat ofthe moment, he kept it up throughout. Funny how people were calling for Gerbil to be banned just for posting a negative opinion but the threats are just dandy. Pretty horrendous thread in general
Not being funny, but has that been verified by anyone else?
Soldato
So Norris is a complete tool for wanting to 'sort' someone out because they took the P out of his driving after he wrote 2 cars off I.E had a bad day
Then you go on to say you how you wanted to lay him out for how he spoke to you??