Another stupid purchasing decision

Aren't Lancia still popular in Italy ? so parts/garages just on your doorstep - maybe a col or 2 in the way.
 
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I like their style, 'payment only in cash.' Never would we get away with that over here. Cue loads of Gen Zers, cash, what is this cash you are talking about. We only recognise this plastic token. You put it into a slot or you wave it in the air. Alternatively I can use my phone.
 
What happens if you modify it?

You fail the MOT if they are not previously approved modifications.
If you are stopped at the roadside with undeclared mods you are in a whole world of trouble.

I mean, this is a country where debadging a car is illegal...


Hi, yes I’d like to buy a Punto Sporting but could you possibly make it look like it was cobbled together from about 4 other cars

This 100 times over. Let's throw a bit of Punto/New Delta/Kappa into a Generative AI tool and see what image comes out the other end - it's a Y.

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It looks less "weird" in real life, somehow.
 
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friend lives in vienna and funnily enough she just sold her punto,
as she put it , now doesnt have to pay all the silly costs for running the car and now not needing to rent a private garage to park it in.
she uses public transport or walks most places, any long journeys she rents a vehicle , saves loads of money.
 
friend lives in vienna and funnily enough she just sold her punto,
as she put it , now doesnt have to pay all the silly costs for running the car and now not needing to rent a private garage to park it in.
she uses public transport or walks most places, any long journeys she rents a vehicle , saves loads of money.

Yep I cycle to work, and use public transport or walk for pretty much anything else.

The only time I ever feel I "need" a car here is if I want to get out and explore the rest of Austria easily, or buying bulky stuff/furniture.

Is there a reason you didn't just buy a car in Austria?

Yes - there is generally awful availability across the board, prices are bonkers, and there's very little in the way of novelty/less common vehicles available. I wanted something not necessarily interesting but a little bit different.

The used car market here is really nothing like the UK.

I submit my documents to Fiat in the morning. Not feeling particularly confident but let's see.
 
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Registering an imported car in Austria

This is more complicated than it should be, because Austria has its own separately maintained database of approved vehicles.

This first registration process must be carried out by the "General Importer" which is, in my case, Fiat.

Fiat need:

  • Certificate of Conformity (I do not have one of those)
  • Foreign V5 (I do have one of those)
  • Receipt that proves it is mine
  • Austrian MOT, officially known as the §57a-Begutachtung Pickerl
I have challenged the 4th point and told them that under EU directives, surely an MOT from any EU member state should be admissible.
Fiat have curtly responded something that basically translates to "We'll see about that"

Once they have inevitably knocked back my application, I will be forced to get the Pickerl.

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Amazed. Genuinely lost for words, I thought that part would be a proper mission.
Submitted my docs and had it back within the hour.


Next up - battle with the Finanzamt!
 
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You fail the MOT if they are not previously approved modifications.
If you are stopped at the roadside with undeclared mods you are in a whole world of trouble.

I mean, this is a country where debadging a car is illegal...

Yeah, it's part of the reason i was nervous adding stuff to the Jeep with the logic being to remove it come MOT time. However since i've crashed, it seems that the things i'd like to do (bigger wheel arches/side steps) and only a "notify" process and relatively straight forward.
 
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Had one of these many years ago in Siciliy, it was modified with the worlds tiniest turbo, 160bhp, it was a laugh, I remember it looking better than that though, rose tinted specs no doubt.

I also had the sister car the 1.2 16v Punto Sporting, no mods but can certainly attest to its ability to motorway cruise at 90-100 mph no bother.
 
Yeah, it's part of the reason i was nervous adding stuff to the Jeep with the logic being to remove it come MOT time. However since i've crashed, it seems that the things i'd like to do (bigger wheel arches/side steps) and only a "notify" process and relatively straight forward.
Sounds like the Spanish have a more relaxed approach. You lose your registration doc if you do it here. Apparently there are some places that will do what is effectively and inspection and you get the modification legally added to the car's logbook. Still a ball ache compared to the UK for example.

The only modification I'd consider is uprated dampers - though to be honest it actually rides firmer than I expected it to - I had no qualms about throwing it around through the back lanes on the way home.
 
Sounds like the Spanish have a more relaxed approach. You lose your registration doc if you do it here. Apparently there are some places that will do what is effectively and inspection and you get the modification legally added to the car's logbook. Still a ball ache compared to the UK for example.

The only modification I'd consider is uprated dampers - though to be honest it actually rides firmer than I expected it to - I had no qualms about throwing it around through the back lanes on the way home.

Oh yeah, might have over simplified it, effectively you need the mod done by a garage with full paperwork, then it has to go through a new inspection to be formally approved and added to the logbook.

Just that anything like arches/tyres are classed as "notify" rather than "modification" and so it only costs around €200 to get it all formalised. If you start touching engine/suspension then prepare to go through a world of pain, which is why a lot of tow bars aren't "official"
 
Aren't Lancia still popular in Italy ? so parts/garages just on your doorstep - maybe a col or 2 in the way.
Yes there are piles of these things in Italy (I didn't buy one there as the Italians traditionally do not look after small cars in any way.
Also, 80% of the mechanical parts are the same as a Punto Sporting, which is a big help.

Lancias are/were still imported into Austria but in very small numbers.

Oh yeah, might have over simplified it, effectively you need the mod done by a garage with full paperwork, then it has to go through a new inspection to be formally approved and added to the logbook.

Just that anything like arches/tyres are classed as "notify" rather than "modification" and so it only costs around €200 to get it all formalised. If you start touching engine/suspension then prepare to go through a world of pain, which is why a lot of tow bars aren't "official"

Ok so that sounds like here then. Some stuff is flat out not allowed, other things have to be either notified or inspected (mostly, inspected :rolleyes:) and added to the car's logbook.

Broadly speaking Austria does not really have a car culture, outside of extremely well maintained classics which are also far from abundant.

Cars are seen by the overwhelming majority as a tool which one needs to perform certain tasks and functions, and to have anything that is bright/loud/modified/fast is considered quite antisocial and an infringement on the life enjoyment of normal people.
Taxation also puts such cars in the "WTF" running cost category so people really don't bother.

For example, you just do not see hot hatches here - I have not seen a single Civic Type-R, or a Focus RS/ST, or a Megane Trophy/Cup/Whatever of any description, in 4 years of coming here regularly and then 2 years living here. Not one!

Never seen a 205GTI, Clio 172, Yaris GR4..... sure, these cars do exist and can be purchased in Austria, but I have never seen one which is so different to what I am used to.
Austria is an ocean of monochrome VW/Audi/Mercedes and Skodas.
 
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