Caporegime
According to redtechgaming 'rumours' Q3/Q4 for the 7800 XT.
The non XT 7800 is rumoured to cost $579 like the 6800 was and be about 4070 performance.
From redtechgaming via:
Hardwaretimes
Ok, thanks.
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Any news on 7800 xt?
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Ok, thanks.
Caporegime
So this is 32 CU 128Bit:
Difference in CU.
RX 7700: 48 (+50%)
RX 7700XT: 54 (+69%)
RX 7800: 60 (+88%)
Taking scaling in to account i'm thinking....
As an RTX 2070S owner the RX 7700XT is of interest to me, its a bit more expensive than the 6700XT MSRP was, but with 70% more shaders and a 192Bit vs 128Bit Bus its got to be at least 60% faster than the RX 7600, putting it between the RX 6800 and RX 6800XT, closer to the latter.
£500, about £40 more than the 6700XT MSRP and about £50 less than the RX 6800 MSRP, i'm ok with that. its quite a bit more, for less, its a better deal than anything Nvidia have.
Its ok.
Difference in CU.
RX 7700: 48 (+50%)
RX 7700XT: 54 (+69%)
RX 7800: 60 (+88%)
Taking scaling in to account i'm thinking....
As an RTX 2070S owner the RX 7700XT is of interest to me, its a bit more expensive than the 6700XT MSRP was, but with 70% more shaders and a 192Bit vs 128Bit Bus its got to be at least 60% faster than the RX 7600, putting it between the RX 6800 and RX 6800XT, closer to the latter.
£500, about £40 more than the 6700XT MSRP and about £50 less than the RX 6800 MSRP, i'm ok with that. its quite a bit more, for less, its a better deal than anything Nvidia have.
Its ok.
Caporegime
For sure, IMO, the 7900XT is a 7800XT re-branded to make you think you're getting a 6900XT replacement with $100 off, this is the first time you've taken a leaf out of Nvidia's playbook, don't do it again, ok?
Just stick to truth.
For sure, IMO, the 7900XT is a 7800XT re-branded to make you think you're getting a 6900XT replacement with $100 off, this is the first time you've taken a leaf out of Nvidia's playbook, don't do it again, ok?
Just stick to truth.
Cheat on me once, shame on you, cheat on me twice.. shame on me!
Caporegime
Cheat on me once, shame on you, cheat on me twice.. shame on me!
Yeah...
That ties in well your signature though: it seems green customers love been cheated on!Cheat on me once, shame on you, cheat on me twice.. shame on me!
I never learn
My last AMD card was a pair of 5870's! What monsters they were back in the day. Since then its been Nvidia 570, pair 680's, pair 980ti's and now the 3090. May as well get lubed up for the 5000 series.
Caporegime
I never learn
My last AMD card was a pair of 5870's! What monsters they were back in the day. Since then its been Nvidia 570, pair 680's, pair 980ti's and now the 3090. May as well get lubed up for the 5000 series.
No lube, Jenson likes it dry....
In nothing but his leather jacket...
Caporegime
The RTX 4050 with 20 SM's puts it at 59% the shader count vs the 4060Ti (20 SM vs 34 SM)
On TPU's chart here that would put it in the middle between the RTX 2060 and RTX 2070.
AMD RX 7500 is just as trashy.
Is there any point in these frankly bad dGPU's at £200+?
In 2024 AMD will have a Zen 5 APU out with RDNA 3.5 CU's.
Anything from 15 watt to 120 watt.
4c 8t, 16 CU (RTX 3050) to 16c 32t, 40 CU (RTX 3060Ti)
They also have AI engines.
AMD are finally doing console APU's for retail.
A bit later Intel will also be attempting "Big APU's" maybe.
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On TPU's chart here that would put it in the middle between the RTX 2060 and RTX 2070.
AMD RX 7500 is just as trashy.
Is there any point in these frankly bad dGPU's at £200+?
In 2024 AMD will have a Zen 5 APU out with RDNA 3.5 CU's.
Anything from 15 watt to 120 watt.
4c 8t, 16 CU (RTX 3050) to 16c 32t, 40 CU (RTX 3060Ti)
They also have AI engines.
AMD are finally doing console APU's for retail.
A bit later Intel will also be attempting "Big APU's" maybe.
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti Founders Edition Review
NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 4060 Ti launches today. The green team's new $400 card offers plenty of performance for even the most demanding titles at Full HD and beyond. Our review confirms that thanks to the amazing energy efficiency of the AD106 GPU, the Founders Edition runs cool and quiet at all times.
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AMD botched the 7800XT because they decided to rename it to a 7900XT and charge £900, they thought theywould get away with it because nvidia’s pricing was so poor.
It backfired as people just wasn’t interested so now they are having to slash prices to get sales but they now can’t release a 7800XT as all they have to fill that spot is a 7700XT which won’t be any faster than a 6800XT.
It backfired as people just wasn’t interested so now they are having to slash prices to get sales but they now can’t release a 7800XT as all they have to fill that spot is a 7700XT which won’t be any faster than a 6800XT.
Caporegime
If my positioning is about right the is 30% between the RX 7800 and RX 7900XT for a 7800XT to slot in to, plenty of room.
In terms of what you're talking about yes it seem quite difficult now give AMD have had to drop the price of the 7900XT to $749, between the 7800 at $579 and the $749 7900XT that's $170 between them, difficult to slot a 7800XT in there without making either the 7900XT or 7800 obsolete.
Whoops.... should have just called the 7900XT the 7800XT and priced it at £749 to start with, could have saved you a lot of headaches and bad press.
Soldato
The RTX 4050 with 20 SM's puts it at 59% the shader count vs the 4060Ti (20 SM vs 34 SM)
On TPU's chart here that would put it in the middle between the RTX 2060 and RTX 2070.
AMD RX 7500 is just as trashy.
Is there any point in these frankly bad dGPU's at £200+?
In 2024 AMD will have a Zen 5 APU out with RDNA 3.5 CU's.
Anything from 15 watt to 120 watt.
4c 8t, 16 CU (RTX 3050) to 16c 32t, 40 CU (RTX 3060Ti)
They also have AI engines.
AMD are finally doing console APU's for retail.
A bit later Intel will also be attempting "Big APU's" maybe.
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti Founders Edition Review
NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 4060 Ti launches today. The green team's new $400 card offers plenty of performance for even the most demanding titles at Full HD and beyond. Our review confirms that thanks to the amazing energy efficiency of the AD106 GPU, the Founders Edition runs cool and quiet at all times.
Thing is with the big APUs is that unless they do something about the memory subsystem, dual channel DDR5 is just going to absolutely wreck the performance of any GPU they put on it. So presumably it won't be a "normal" PC with upgradable memory.
Edit: or it will be, which is what most sources seem to be suggesting... In which case it will be turd. Like a 3060 ti bottlenecked to perform like a GTX 1650 lol.
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If AMD want to redeem themselves then dropping the 7900XT to £600, scrapping the 7800 altogether since it’s really a 7700XT anyway and just releasing that card for £450 with the same performance as a 4070 would be the way to go.
Caporegime
Yeah, we will have to see how that pans out, i think the higher end ones have large L4 cache chips.
These are 12 CU RDNA3 35 watt parts. Even if low settings averaging 60 FPS+ 1080P in Metro Exodus is impressive for a 35 watt Laptop APU.
Strix is minimum 16 CU RDNA 3.5.
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I'd take any rumours about pricing with an Earth sized grain of salt, how anyone thinks they know the price when famously Jensen doesn't even know the price 10min before walking on stage and AMD dropped the price of the 7600 less than 48 hours before launch.
As for performance anyone of us could probably take a fairly accurate guesstimate on where the rest of the line-up will land based purely on what's the equivalent Nvidia graphics card and slotting them between those.
For me personally the only thing of interest, barring any weirdness or screw ups, is when they're intending to launch them.
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I do hope the 7700 / XT is attainable for £380 / £450. Would suit me very well. Means I can factor in a PSU and look at a new TV too.
Caporegime
The RX 7600 is $270 and here for £260, that's about right for currency conversion and the UK's (Because we like taxing you in to oblivion, tax you not once, but 16X on the same money) tax.
I expect a $529 RX 7700XT to be around £500 to £510.
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I expect you're within $20-30 based on current prices, i hope we're both wrong as that's too expensive IMO, but i suspect you're not far off.
Never know, maybe we'll see prices across the board fall by 20-30% in the next few months.....and maybe we'll finally crack cold fusion and world peace will breakout.
