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Any news on 7800 xt?

Sgt_Major said:
Having true wealth is about having the choice to do what you want to do, how and when you do it. So if working hard brings them joy, so be it. Its hard to change a solid work ethic, just as its hard for someone sat on their backside claiming benefits when there are lots jobs out there, but its the easier road to just stay claiming free money....

My logic goes like this.

What you say is correct, so these are 6800XT and 3080 competitors.

So Nvidia's options should be $750 with inflation etc etc.
AMD option $650.

Then we are almost a year since launch, so both down about $100 bucks, making them $650 and $550.

Sounds right to me. So the only thing wrong is we are being scammed from the start. Remember, the only reason the 7900XT seems a good deal at £700 is because it came out at £900, if it had come out at its correct price of about £650, I indeed would be paying £550 for it now.

So I stand by my £550 evaluation.
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My sums way wrong there

Can I ask why the 7900 XT would be $550 yet the 4070Ti would be $650? Or did you mean the 4080 should be $650. Is the some sort of “but AMD have less features tax”?

Even $550 in Dec 2022 would still not equate to your red line of £550 in UK prices? It was about £560 after VAT and there are other costs to be as as well. It would still have been about £600 for 7900 XT at your wishful thinking price US MSRP.
 
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The 6800xt is one of the greater cards in the industry's history... it'll be sad to see a 7800xt that loses to like a 4070 or something. I know it's just marketing nonsense, but still
 
kute said:
The 6800xt is one of the greater cards in the industry's history... it'll be sad to see a 7800xt that loses to like a 4070 or something. I know it's just marketing nonsense, but still
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As is usual from AMD the 6800XT has the longevity, its still a good card now and will be for some time to come, yet again this latest batch from Nvidia will also not last, the 6800XT will out last the 4070 as a good capable GPU.
 
Sgt_Major said:
Yep, people that cannot control their spending urges, even when it literally gains them nothing, inflates the market for everyone else, including themselves. The thing is, 95% people in that position do not even have much disposable income to begin with, they live month to month paying their bills and saving nothing. The vast majority in the UK do not even have one single months earnings as savings.

They buy these over priced goods to have some sort of "self worth" or keep up with their friends not to appear "in poverty" when they actually indeed are in poverty.

The vast majority of the people pushing prices up are not wealthy at all, its all credit/debt based, impulse purchases, "I must have the new shiny" etc etc.

Most millionaires I know personally, drive no more than £30k cars, do not buy new cars either, and live a frugal life, this on top of working their ass off and making LOTS of money.

When you don't have much money/have a good career earning you good money, you lack the value and perspective it took to gain that wealth, so you do not respect the effort it took to get that money and its value is diminished in your eyes. This is why so many with low incomes, low paying jobs or on benefits, don't bat an eye lid at a 4080 for £1200, because its just going on credit, all they see is "NEW NIVIDIA" ONLY gonna cost me £50 per month, its exactly the same with new Samsung or iPhones, both costing like £1k+, or "LOOK, FREE iPhone with unlimited mins and texts and data!, just £60 per month for 24 months", and they buy into that being brainwashed and having no financial sense, not actually stepping back and thinking, hold on, I am paying £1440 over 24 months.... thats £1k for the phone and £20 per month just for the contract.....

Its much easier for companies and marketing to sell too and manipulate the uneducated/on benefits, those in poverty and no career earning them a good living, those with money are not so easily manipulated as they were savvy to get there in the first place.


Meh, /rant over...
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A post on OcUK vilifying those on low incomes, and suggesting high earners are all-round better people?

Say it ain't so.

/s

Let's completely ignore all the low-earners who live frugally within their means. Or the high-earners who also manage to out-spend their incomes *despite* earning a fortune. You don't have to look for examples of those, even if you don't personally know any. Boris Becker, Michael Jackson, et al.

No matter what you earn, you can be frugal or spend everything you have as soon as it touches your bank account.

Thinking this behaviour is exclusive to any economic group is just your bias shining through.
 
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FoxEye said:
A post on OcUK vilifying those on low incomes, and suggesting high earners are all-round better people?

Say it ain't so.

/s

Let's completely ignore all the low-earners who live frugally within their means. Or the high-earners who also manage to out-spend their incomes *despite* earning a fortune. You don't have to look for examples of those, even if you don't personally know any. Boris Becker, Michael Jackson, et al.

No matter what you earn, you can be frugal or spend everything you have as soon as it touches your bank account.

Thinking this behaviour is exclusive to any economic group is just your bias shining through.
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The truth is always tough to hear....
 
Sgt_Major said:
The truth is always tough to hear....
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Not in this case. I know plenty on low incomes who live entirely within their means. I also know people in the "high earner" bracket who are always "broke" (because they spend money like water).

You sound like you simply admire people for making a lot of money, and have wilfully fallen into the trap of thinking people who make a lot of money must be superior people.
 
FoxEye said:
Not in this case. I know plenty on low incomes who live entirely within their means. I also know people in the "high earner" bracket who are always "broke" (because they spend money like water).

You sound like you simply admire people for making a lot of money, and have wilfully fallen into the trap of thinking people who make a lot of money must be superior people.
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I think my comments were taken out of context, I never said its a 100% fact, but its very much a trend. People that are lower down the society ladder tend to be less sensible with their money, do not spend time or effort get to better jobs, tend to rely on society for hand outs, and end up in debt. Hence why I see countless people that do not have £5K in their bank accounts, but run around with £1200 phones, and also purchase 4090s, on finance....

My previous work experience for the last decade took me into countless homes of the public, from all walks of life, regardings sales and involving money. And I can say for a fact, the vast majority of those in poverty are there by their own life choices, and tended to have FAR less financial savvy or appreciate the value in the money they spent or intend to spend on things.

Take away credit/finance/benefits, keep prices where they are, and sales would plummet for overpriced electronics.

I intend to get back on topic now, sorry for taking this away from the 7800XT.
 
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That is like a back street mechanic claiming only cheap cars have mechanical issues. Just because the vast majority of his work is on cheaper cars does not mean they are less reliable. It just means the more expensive ones get taken to more specialist mechanics, or are covered under main dealership warranties.

In your case you see the fallout of the poorest in society reaching almost rock bottom. A significant number of richer people also have such problems with money management or getting better work. They just tend to be bailed out by the bank of mum and dad and are a lot less likely to end up in poverty asking for help.
 
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ICDP said:
You are aware that $550 does not equate to £550 UK prices? It is about £620 after VAT and there are other costs as well. You end up between £630 and £650 for a 7900 XT
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$550 is ~£520 after VAT, not ~£620.

At the moment, US$550 is UK£432.16. With 20% VAT that's UK£518.59.

UK prices don't equate to USA prices, but that's not because of VAT.
 
Angilion said:
$550 is ~£520 after VAT, not ~£620.

At the moment, US$550 is UK£432.16. With 20% VAT that's UK£518.59.

UK prices don't equate to USA prices, but that's not because of VAT.
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Apologies you are correct I got that wrong. What I was trying to point out (badly) was that if the 7900 XT was $550 USD MSRP on release, it would still not have been a £550 GPU in the UK.
 
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