£500 for a 4070ti would be a good deal, £550 an ok deal, for a 7900XT £550 a good deal, £600 an ok deal
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Any news on 7800 xt?
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Caporegime
Interesting that you think the 7900XT is worth more, why?
Longer term?
They are stock market driven companies and never think long term. One quarter at a time is as long as they think and if the bonus for a good quarter kill the next quarter or a future year? They don't care.
Short-term does what short-term does.
It’s a better card, more raster and VRAM so will last longer. Sure the 4070ti has a bit better RT + DLSS/FG but that’s only useful if you have the vram to run it.
The 3070ti was £529, what's the 4070ti uplift from it ? I think £550-£600 is fair and 7900xt £650
Soldato
Exactly and the problem is most of this is being driven by the trillions of USD printed in the last two decades.
Caporegime
Well on that only AMD are in both.
PS5, XBox, ROG Ally, Steam Deck, and whole bunch of other handhelds, High end Samsung Phones and Tablets, oh the Tesla, Tesla's now have console level gaming chips in them, Musk is a gamer.
Also... listen to this.
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PS5, XBox, ROG Ally, Steam Deck, and whole bunch of other handhelds, High end Samsung Phones and Tablets, oh the Tesla, Tesla's now have console level gaming chips in them, Musk is a gamer.
Also... listen to this.
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Caporegime
We really are going backwards, aren't we. 1440p is supposed to be a mid-range res by now, not commanding premium prices.
I know someone will be along shortly to say £500-£650 is mid-range pricing these days
Perhaps even being able to keep a straight face...We really are going backwards, aren't we. 1440p is supposed to be a mid-range res by now, not commanding premium prices.
I know someone will be along shortly to say £500-£650 is mid-range pricing these days
You get different levels of 1440p cards some with high FPS some not so much , we ain't getting xtx /4080 for £500/£650 anymore
Soldato
Looking forward to the 4050, if the 4060 is for 1080p then will it only be for 720p?We really are going backwards, aren't we. 1440p is supposed to be a mid-range res by now, not commanding premium prices.
I know someone will be along shortly to say £500-£650 is mid-range pricing these days
£600 would be a sweet 1080p card, tho!Looking forward to the 4050, if the 4060 is for 1080p then will it only be for 720p?
For me to consider it, the 4070ti needs to be around £450, its a 12GB card, it wont last me very long at ultra settings @1440p...
Nvidia are just drunk/high and need some really strong coffee to come back down to earth....
Caporegime
Yeah, i want to say the same sort of thing but in performance terms it is better than that.
Which is why i just call it a flawed GPU, in my mind i've run through all sorts of anecdotal ways of describing what i mean by that but they all sound daft... like sticking a Lambo engine in a golf cart, that sounds way too much fun.....
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Nah for me £450 seems spot on.
They made a MASSIVE node drop, gaining HUGE performance gains. But those gains where only sold to you in the 4090.
The rest of the gains we should have gotten were erroded away because they shifted the rest of the stack up 2 tiers from where they should be, while also increasing the prices.
This meant one thing and one thing only, everything was a terrible price to performance GPU. Increase or even decrease in price, it was just TERRIBLE value and no improvement in price/performance.
Which leads me to just one conclusion, this generation is garbage and a 100% SKIP. Only thing I can do to send Nvidia my personal message is to say NO THANKS, and vote with my wallet. If more people took this attitude we would have a better GPU market, simple as that.
Caporegime
The problem is quite a lot of people have bought them, look at the Steam Hardware Survey. the 40 series is mingling with the 20 and 30 series, the 4080 is already higher ranked than the 2080Ti.
What worries me is Nvidia can't lose, even if they try, for every one of us who are like "i've hand enough of this" 100 others with green tinted glasses are screaming, "A NEW NVIDIA, TAKE MY MONEY!!!!"
I was watching something on Youtube a couple of years ago, that Youtuber was just wondering round a vast queue for some new iPhone asking people what they like most about the new iPhone, or what new features they are looking forward to.
Every single one gave him a confused blank look before saying "its the new iPhone" to every single question.
What worries me is Nvidia can't lose, even if they try, for every one of us who are like "i've hand enough of this" 100 others with green tinted glasses are screaming, "A NEW NVIDIA, TAKE MY MONEY!!!!"
I was watching something on Youtube a couple of years ago, that Youtuber was just wondering round a vast queue for some new iPhone asking people what they like most about the new iPhone, or what new features they are looking forward to.
Every single one gave him a confused blank look before saying "its the new iPhone" to every single question.
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What about 7900xt ?
Caporegime
It is said that 95% of the human race live out their lives unthinking and merely waiting on instructions from the remaining 5%.
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Yep, people that cannot control their spending urges, even when it literally gains them nothing, inflates the market for everyone else, including themselves. The thing is, 95% people in that position do not even have much disposable income to begin with, they live month to month paying their bills and saving nothing. The vast majority in the UK do not even have one single months earnings as savings.
They buy these over priced goods to have some sort of "self worth" or keep up with their friends not to appear "in poverty" when they actually indeed are in poverty.
The vast majority of the people pushing prices up are not wealthy at all, its all credit/debt based, impulse purchases, "I must have the new shiny" etc etc.
Most millionaires I know personally, drive no more than £30k cars, do not buy new cars either, and live a frugal life, this on top of working their ass off and making LOTS of money.
When you don't have much money/have a good career earning you good money, you lack the value and perspective it took to gain that wealth, so you do not respect the effort it took to get that money and its value is diminished in your eyes. This is why so many with low incomes, low paying jobs or on benefits, don't bat an eye lid at a 4080 for £1200, because its just going on credit, all they see is "NEW NIVIDIA" ONLY gonna cost me £50 per month, its exactly the same with new Samsung or iPhones, both costing like £1k+, or "LOOK, FREE iPhone with unlimited mins and texts and data!, just £60 per month for 24 months", and they buy into that being brainwashed and having no financial sense, not actually stepping back and thinking, hold on, I am paying £1440 over 24 months.... thats £1k for the phone and £20 per month just for the contract.....
Its much easier for companies and marketing to sell too and manipulate the uneducated/on benefits, those in poverty and no career earning them a good living, those with money are not so easily manipulated as they were savvy to get there in the first place.
Meh, /rant over...