For me its the better card 100%, that VRAM buffer gives it some real longevity, but still its pure raster is not that impressive for generational gains. For me its a £550 card, tops.
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Any news on 7800 xt?
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Caporegime
Well put...
Soldato
With posts like I nominate the mods change your name to Regimental Sgt Major
Caporegime
Man of Honour.
Do that many people buy high end GPUs on debt? That's pretty sad if it's the case. I've always being of the view that I'll never use debt, unless it's interest free, to buy depreciating assets because it's a dumb move. So I've only bought depreciating items like cars, graphics cards etc in cash and won't buy something if I don't have the cash
You are correct about the average person not having much in savings, I'd be surprised if the average person had more than two weeks of money in their bank account.
While I've bought some expensive items over the years like a nice car, expensive electronics like my PC etc I've never done these things sporadically and would plan it well in advance to specifically save cash for that purpose without affecting my aggressive savings goals and my goal over the years has always been to save the majority of income and that's allowed me to get to what is now the equivalent of many years of savings
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Caporegime
This country exists on credit, the whole economy is built on and depends on debt.
Inflation is no accident, its a way of reducing government debt, the less valuable the £ is the lower that debt, its a way of converting government debt to public debt, a stealth tax, the reduction in the value of the £ (inflation) reduces the cost of government debt but that same loss in value decreases your spending power, you feel like you are poorer because you are, the money in your pocket doesn't buy you as much as it used to.
So, if the government wants more money, instead of putting texes up, that's bad electorally, they simply print themselves a few hundred billion £, that in turn devalues the £, your spending power is reduced and in that way the government has taxed you without you understanding it in that way, you vote for them, they print more money and you wonder how it is that year on year you're feeling like you're getting ever poorer.
Its really cynical and i hate it, we are some of the most over taxed people on earth and they still want more, and more.... it is getting to the stage now where the only way an increasing number of people can survive is on credit, that's unsustainable, credit is getting ever more expensive as they try to control this self inflicted spiral of inflation and eventually the creditors are going to call in those debts.
We are heading for a catastrophe and we brought it on ourselves.
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Soldato
There is a balance to be had. No point being a millionaire if all you're doing is working long hours every day, never stop checking work emails at the weekend and spend no time doing things you enjoy doing. Sure you might have 7+ figures to your name, but few people in their death bed will be thinking about money, they'll be thinking about their experiences and family.
Having said that, yes people do often spends too much on semi disposable gadgets that won't make them feel any better.
Bearing in mind the majority can't find a few hundred quid in cash it says to me they must be using credit. I've always chuckled at those US house moving programmes when they want to move up to a million dollar house and then baulk at $1,000 for some new wood flooring to sell their old house. All done with credit and very few assets to their name.
Caporegime
RX7700XT 12GB:
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ASRock lists Radeon RX 7800XT 16GB and Radeon RX 7700XT 12GB graphics cards at EEC - VideoCardz.com
ASRock confirms Radeon RX 7800 XT and RX 7700 XT memory configurations ASRock has once again lodged submissions for its upcoming Radeon RX 7000 series with the regulatory office of the Eurasian Economic Commission. The latest information from these submissions appears to uncover two of AMD’s...
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I sort of agree on pricing but £550 is a tad ridiculous.
I get it, Nvidia and AMD took the pee on release pricing but the performance is about 40% - 45% faster than a 6800 XT at 4K. So had AMD stuck with about £650 on release it would be roughly in line with the 6800 XT generational uplift (weaker pound considered).
Usually a generational uplift is about 30% to 50% with 60% being the exception.
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Caporegime
RX7700XT 12GB:
ASRock lists Radeon RX 7800XT 16GB and Radeon RX 7700XT 12GB graphics cards at EEC - VideoCardz.com
ASRock confirms Radeon RX 7800 XT and RX 7700 XT memory configurations ASRock has once again lodged submissions for its upcoming Radeon RX 7000 series with the regulatory office of the Eurasian Economic Commission. The latest information from these submissions appears to uncover two of AMD’s...
With 48 CU's its likely to be 20 to 30% faster than the 6700XT, and with that that much faster than the 4060Ti, and 12GB.
No more than $500, probably, $479? Not great, but also not bad and a lot better than the 4060Ti.
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Should be $399 because 20-30% faster would make it slower than the 6800xt which hub says you can buy for $499 right now
So at $499 the 7700xt would get absolutely panned in reviews and probably result in more people calling YouTube channels Nvidia shills
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Having true wealth is about having the choice to do what you want to do, how and when you do it. So if working hard brings them joy, so be it. Its hard to change a solid work ethic, just as its hard for someone sat on their backside claiming benefits when there are lots jobs out there, but its the easier road to just stay claiming free money....
My logic goes like this.
What you say is correct, so these are 6800XT and 3080 competitors.
So Nvidia's options should be $750 with inflation etc etc.
AMD option $650.
Then we are almost a year since launch, so both down about $100 bucks, making them $650 and $550.
Sounds right to me. So the only thing wrong is we are being scammed from the start. Remember, the only reason the 7900XT seems a good deal at £700 is because it came out at £900, if it had come out at its correct price of about £650, I indeed would be paying £550 for it now.
So I stand by my £550 evaluation.
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I'm going to say it, i find the 7700XT - 48 CU's : 7800 XT - 70 CU's rather suspect.
I'm not saying they're defiantly wrong but i sure hope they are because if not AMD will have majorly screwed the pooch, i mean all of the 7000 cards released so far have increased the CU count over previous gen cards so for them to lower the CU count in the middle of the stack just seems odd.
It's almost like the leaks are using how many CU's are on non-XT models but assuming they're XT's
I'm not saying they're defiantly wrong but i sure hope they are because if not AMD will have majorly screwed the pooch, i mean all of the 7000 cards released so far have increased the CU count over previous gen cards so for them to lower the CU count in the middle of the stack just seems odd.
It's almost like the leaks are using how many CU's are on non-XT models but assuming they're XT's
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Just imagine the 7900XTX replaced the 6900XT, and the 7900XT replaced the 6800XT, at similar pricing to before.
They both would have gotten golden reviews and sold like hotcakes to this day. And left room for rest of lineup to look good too.
Caporegime
It will, and yet there is no alternative. well there is one, RX 6800.
Caporegime
We will know in a couple of weeks, Gamescom starts on the 23'rd.
Caporegime
Same, RTX 2070S and i'm not spending £500+ so RX 7700XT or RX 6800.
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