Caporegime
The 6800 has 512GB/s bandwidth with 16Gb/s IC's
With 18Gb/s IC's it will have 433GB/s bandwidth
With 20Gb/s IC's it will have 480GB/s bandwidth
The 4060Ti has 288GB/s
The 4070 has 455GB/s
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Any news on 7800 xt?
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The 6800 has 512GB/s bandwidth with 16Gb/s IC's
With 18Gb/s IC's it will have 433GB/s bandwidth
With 20Gb/s IC's it will have 480GB/s bandwidth
The 4060Ti has 288GB/s
The 4070 has 455GB/s
Caporegime
Its a powerful GPU, just depends on price....
Soldato
I am only trying to explain their "logic". The big issue is they are probably banking on the Starfield promo to push sales,but once it disappears,basically they will have to drop it in price anyway.
So why they don't just do it now instead to just get some good PR,I don't know. Maybe they want to like Nvidia sell off their older cards at the existing prices.
Edit!!
Also MLID suggested Nvidia might price drop the RTX4060TI cards a bit,and if they make a slight adjustment to the RTX4070 pricing,AMD is back to square one.
This is what happened with the RX5600XT,when AMD seemed unable to fathom that Nvidia might drop the price of the RTX2060.
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Soldato
So what do people think would be a 'good' (and plausible not wishful thinking) price for the 7700XT and 7800XT?
Soldato
I think £400ish would be OK for the RX7700XT and £450~£500 for an RX7800XT.
But if we were to ignore the upselling,the RX7700XT is the RX7600XT/RX7700 and should be £300~£350 and the RX7800XT which is the RX7700XT should be £400~£450 at most(like the RTX4070 should be as it an RTX4060TI).
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Caporegime
IMO judging by that charts the 7800XT is 5% faster than the 4070, but that includes RT games.
Its going to be no more than $550.
IMO that put's the RX 7700XT at $479, the same price as the 6700XT, but its 30% faster.
That to me would make a lot of sense, the 7800XT 10% faster than the 6800XT but $100 cheaper.
The 7700XT the same price as the 6700XT and 30% faster.
You're also getting a better deal than anything from Nvidia.
Its going to be no more than $550.
IMO that put's the RX 7700XT at $479, the same price as the 6700XT, but its 30% faster.
That to me would make a lot of sense, the 7800XT 10% faster than the 6800XT but $100 cheaper.
The 7700XT the same price as the 6700XT and 30% faster.
You're also getting a better deal than anything from Nvidia.
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Soldato
Yeah I think in the current climate that sounds, as you say, OK but the reshifting of the lineups from both teams has been a real cheapshot.
Maybe Battlemage will save the middle ground.
Yup the 4060TI has broken everything. I'd be all over that 7800XT for between £450 and £500, especially with the copy of Starfield (assuming that will still be on). But I think its going to be £550..
Praying I'm wrong
Caporegime
Intel tried to sell the A770 for $200 more than a card that was faster than it, even right now they are trying to sell the A770 for $40 more than the RX 7600 which is better.
Don't count on Intel they see themselves more as Nvidia than they do AMD.
Well there's your problem.
Soldato
Well there's your problem.
Hence the inverted commas.
Soldato
Oh I don't think any of them are out to do us any favours.
Depends on performance, if the 7800XT is 5-10% slower than a 4070Ti then £600 would be a good price. If it's 5-10% faster than a 4070 then £450/500 would be a good price.
As for the 7700XT that really needs to be 10%'ish faster than the 4060TI and cost no more than £300.
Caporegime
Its more than that i think, the 4060Ti struggles to keep up with the RX 6700XT and the 7700XT is 35% more GPU than it.
The only issue i have with that is that the 7900XT's MSRP is $950 now reduced, although I'm not sure if official, to $762.
At the price you suggest it would leave anything from a two to four hundred dollar price gap in their line-up.
I mean we don't actually know how much more of a GPU it is yet, it maybe physically/logically 35% bigger but those are not good indicators of performance.Its more than that i think, the 4060Ti struggles to keep up with the RX 6700XT and the 7700XT is 35% more GPU than it.
Caporegime
Right now the EOL price of the RX 6800 is £440 ($460)
www.overclockers.co.uk
$479 would be around £450, i was quite happy to buy that ^^^ for £440 so why would i not be happy buying it for £450 as a newer generation and the benefits that brings.
I'm assuming the 54 CU thing is correct, if it is that's 35% more CU's (Shaders / RT cores) than the 6700XT.
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$479 would be around £450, i was quite happy to buy that ^^^ for £440 so why would i not be happy buying it for £450 as a newer generation and the benefits that brings.
I'm assuming the 54 CU thing is correct, if it is that's 35% more CU's (Shaders / RT cores) than the 6700XT.
Caporegime
I'll say this, in RT it will blow the 4060Ti out of the water...... 
Caporegime
Lets just not lose perspective here, the 4070 is not bad at $599.99. AMD would be doing alright to beat it as a proposition.
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