Lets hope....
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Any news on 7800 xt?
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Lets hope....
Caporegime
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Its terrible. Pay £200 more(50% price hike) for the same generational improvement we got from the GTX1070 to the RTX2060 Super,and the RTX2060 Super to the RTX3060TI.
It also lead to the terrible RTX4060TI.
Basically at the rate things are going,the RTX5060TI(or whatever its called) will be £750~£900 for 35% to 45% extra performance over an RTX4070.
Plus the RX6700XT was not great value at launch. Nvidia launched the RTX3060TI($400) just before mining struck so boxed themselves in with the FE pricing having to stay the same.
AMD launched the RX6700XT at a higher RRP of $480,like all the second releases in 2021 from Nvidia because they knew they could get away with it.You were lucky to find an RX6700XT for under £460. Most of the time it was a £500~£600 card because AMD didn't sell reference cards in the UK so it never hit the advertised overinflated $480 RRP. The RTX3060TI ended up costing even more outside the FE version,and even the second generation TI release was an attempt to push pricing it up(it worked).
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Caporegime
I bought the 2070 Super, £450. The same £450 will give me a 50% increase in performance and the minimum VRam i need.
Things could always be better but what else am i going to do? 4060Ti 16GB is £475. I can't critizise AMD for giving me a 30% faster card than that for less.... I mean isn't that the sort of #### we have been crying out for them to do? Is anything ever enough?
While AMD has officially confirmed that FSR is coming soon, unfortunately, they have not yet provided a specific release date
Let's see if they provide date for it later today getting embarrassing now
Not that it should matter to us consumers, but Intel had a huge chip with tons of transistors offering terrible perf/transistors/, perf/area, and perf/watt but it did offer okayish transistors/price. For those who like lots of transistors poorly used!
Well, RT only matters when Nvidia is ahead as the 3050 selling for almost the price of 6700 proved! Even the much hyped 3070 and 3080 ended up doing now what many said back then: performance tanking due to too little VRAM. Still plenty of green evangelists managed to get the various VRAM thread (here and elsewhere) locked.I'll say this, in RT it will blow the 4060Ti out of the water......
Yes, 6700XT was the first real "pre-scalped for your convenience" card before the 3070 Ti and 3080 Ti, so hardly the best comparison. Recently when it came down to £300ish even with bundled games is when it became good value.
Caporegime
Even the boost clock on the 7700XT is higher than it is on the 7800XT, how is it faster?
Ok sure memory speed and bus width, but that only starts to matter at 1440P and only really matters at 4K.
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I think the RX 7700XT might even be a performance competitor to the RTX 4070, no joke...
That's put Nvidia in a real kerfufle.
That's put Nvidia in a real kerfufle.
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Caporegime
Will this be A Marketing Distinction or Another Marketing Disaster? 
Caporegime
Will this be A Marketing Distinction or Another Marketing Disaster?
I don't know..... the 7800XT is a weird one but i'm increasingly liking the look of the 7700XT.
Caporegime
I mean RIP RTX 4070.
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At this rate I'm more interested on when we will see the 7900xtx for 800.
Give it to me for 800 before the end of the year and I'll get it.
If not I'll just wait the generation out.
7800xt seems good vs the competition performance wise but it will be interesting to see what they price it as considering we have just had the 7900Xt for 700.
That FSR performance seems decent is DLSS available in Forspoken for comparison?
Give it to me for 800 before the end of the year and I'll get it.
If not I'll just wait the generation out.
7800xt seems good vs the competition performance wise but it will be interesting to see what they price it as considering we have just had the 7900Xt for 700.
That FSR performance seems decent is DLSS available in Forspoken for comparison?
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Are we looking at the same amd charts?
According to AMD's charts the 7700xt is on average about 17% faster than 4060ti and 7800xt is on average 6% faster than 4070. According to TPU, 4070 is 29% faster than 4060ti.
So I don't think 7700xt is beating the 4070 based on these numbers. It looks like the 7800xt is about 10-15% faster than the 7700xt
It is close though I'll give you that, probably the 7800xt will only be $50-100 more expensive than the 7700xt, any more and it's overpriced
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FSR3 launch with Aveum and Forspoken
7800xt 5% faster than rtx4070 on average
Little surprised Starfield is not mentioned or launched with. I thought that would be the game to launch it with tbh.
Caporegime
So if the 7800XT is 6% faster than the 4070 then the 7700XT is 7% slower.... You shouldn't be comparing AMD's slides to TPU's slides, you should be comparing AMD's slides to AMD's slides.
Caporegime
One other thing, AMD's slides include RT games, TPU's slides do not, we all know that relatively Nvidia does better in RT, if AMD's slides were raster only, like TPU's slides i think they would agree with them.
So i think the 7700XT is a good shout vs the 4070.
So i think the 7700XT is a good shout vs the 4070.
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