Any opinions on o2 broadband?

zzzJonny · 29 Oct 2008 at 19:38

Si MPS said:
i just have to note now that i won't be doing anymore profile changes for anyone as someone has called our CS, used my name and started hassling when they didn't turn off fastpath.

sorry guys but thats a step too far.

That's regrettable to hear... what a donkey.

JamesU2005 · 31 Oct 2008 at 07:22

Was activated on o2 16mb package on Wednesday. However, despite being told by the o2 website and BE website I could get up to 11/12mb. I'm getting around 7mb on a good sync.

Do you think is my MAX down speed? Shall I downgrade? I have removed the ring wire and use the Master Socket.

DSL Type: G.992.5 annex A
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 1,252 / 7,384
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [kB/kB]: 0.00 / 0.00
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12.0 / 19.0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 25.5 / 45.0
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 6.5 / 6.0
Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / BDCM
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 3,145 / 0

FrenchTart · 31 Oct 2008 at 09:41

JamesU2005 said:
Was activated on o2 16mb package on Wednesday. However, despite being told by the o2 website and BE website I could get up to 11/12mb. I'm getting around 7mb on a good sync.

Do you think is my MAX down speed? Shall I downgrade? I have removed the ring wire and use the Master Socket.

DSL Type: G.992.5 annex A
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 1,252 / 7,384
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [kB/kB]: 0.00 / 0.00
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12.0 / 19.0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 25.5 / 45.0
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 6.5 / 6.0
Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / BDCM
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 3,145 / 0

You've got a reasonable sync speed for that attenuation/line length. Unfortunately estimates are estimates.

Yamahahahahaha · 31 Oct 2008 at 11:24

*Facepalm*
Ignore the attenuation, SNR is what matters.
An SNR of 6 like yours is what they generally aim for, so chances are this is your final speed.

JamesU2005 · 31 Oct 2008 at 12:27

Someone suggested to me on another forum I ask o2 to lower SNR to 3.

Good idea?

tolien · 31 Oct 2008 at 17:29

Maybe, but you might get more instability as a side effect of the extra speed.

zzzJonny · 1 Nov 2008 at 16:43

With my router ( Netgear DG834GT, FW 1.02.16 - DGTeam Rev. 0835), you can set a SNR percentage.

SNR puts in a relationship signal power and noise on the line. The more SNR is low the more data trasmission will be hard.
Aging on slider, or directly on box, is possible to vary the downstream SNR percentage value.
Lowering it more than 100%, you'll obtain as consequence an ADSL line more sensible to interferences/noise (worst case: connection failure) but in advantage an higher attainable rate (max downstream available): to obtain the best performance from ADSL line, the attainable rate should be always higher (equal at least) than Downstream value.
Raising it more than 100%, as opposite, will cause an attainable rate decrease in favour of an higher SNR value. In brief, the line will result more stable (bettere rejection to noises) with the disadvantage of a little line performance decrease if attainable rate becomes lower than Downstream value.
Choose the best setting value to obtain the right compensation: speed vs reliability.
Default value is of course 100% which means no modification.
Upstream SNR, instead, can't be modified.

Firegod · 3 Nov 2008 at 19:41

z0mbi3, I've just dropped you an email. Hope you don't mind.

Thanks.

Crimefighter · 4 Nov 2008 at 11:12

I signed up with O2 and was up and running last night.

speedwise it seems fine (I have the 16MB package), but latency wise it was extremely disappointing. 350ms - 600ms in wow, and very inconsistent as well.

I dont have any line stats on me at the moment as I am at work now, but the line should be ok as we are 650m to the exchange, and the speedtest result last night gave 8.5Mb down 500KB up at 30ms to a London server. My previous service with BT was unpredictable but occasionally gave latency of around 170ms, so I was expecting at least that with a theoretically better service from 02.

I have read through some of this thread, and I understand there have been some problems with O2/Be's network...have these been resolved? Should I wait a bit longer to pass judgement on the connection? Cos it aint much fun at the moment.

Any tips from other wow players on O2 to get latency down?

Im working off the Canonbury (London) exchange if that makes any difference.

Balb0wa · 4 Nov 2008 at 11:15

well quite a few people are still getting poor latency in the night, fine during the day, but come 5pm and evening, it goes to pot.

Mine used to be fine, been on 02 about 5 months, recently its not good. Congestion i think.

This is be's/02 status page https://www.bethere.co.uk/networkStatusScreenForForum.do

Im in the midlands and mines poor at night.

Thread about it on the 02 forums

http://forum.o2.co.uk/viewforum.php?f=12

Crimefighter · 4 Nov 2008 at 11:58

Thanks for the links, Ill keep an eye over them the next few days (and my connection). Hopefully it will improve.

Random tought, you know there absolutely has to be a business opportunity out there for an ISP to prioritise ping/latency within their network and capture the PC/PS3/Xbox360 gamer market. Id pay extra and Im sure many others would as well.

Balb0wa · 4 Nov 2008 at 18:59

pings to bbc and jolt averaging 94 now :confused:

Westyfield2 · 4 Nov 2008 at 19:39

bobbyboy uk said:
pings to bbc and jolt averaging 94 now

I'm getting between 21 and 30 to BBC and Jolt..... I'm on O2 @ 13mb

Yerman · 4 Nov 2008 at 20:34

I'm also getting bad pings and slow speeds on an evening lately on O2. It looks like congestion/throttling to me.

During the day, pings are fine (20 to uk servers), I can download at 1.1mb/s.

At the moment on an evening, pings 100+, http downloads 60kb/s, yet newsgroups are still fine at 1.1mb/s :confused:

nolimit · 4 Nov 2008 at 22:39

I mentioned around a month ago when I jointed O2, speeds in the evening just drops from 1200kb/s download to 200kb/s.

At the moment I can't even load youtube, O2 forum etc. As always OcUk website works perfectly!

RobH · 6 Nov 2008 at 21:47

Been having DNS issues with the O2 provided servers lately, switched my computers and PS3 over to OpenDNS and it seem to work fine now. Is there a way to change the DNS servers on the O2 Box (via the CLI maybe?) as I have many wireless devices and it's annoying to change all of them separately.

sunlitsix · 6 Nov 2008 at 21:49

RobH said:
Is there a way to change the DNS servers on the O2 Box (via the CLI maybe?) as I have many wireless devices and it's annoying to change all of them separately.

http://www.beforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=9733
everything you need is on there

Freakitchen · 6 Nov 2008 at 22:22

O2 is definitely having DNS issues at the moment. Problems two nights ago and tonight, but none last night. Suggest everyone switch to OpenDNS for a while as a quick fix.

sunlitsix · 6 Nov 2008 at 22:31

yeah it says on the status page

DNS/SMTP Please note: We are currently experiencing a DNS issue which may cause some websites not to be accessible. Our engineers have been informed and they are working to resolve the issue as soon as possible

ive been using the OpenDNS servers for afew weeks now, no problems what so ever

IcE-ColD · 6 Nov 2008 at 22:37

JamesU2005 said:
Was activated on o2 16mb package on Wednesday. However, despite being told by the o2 website and BE website I could get up to 11/12mb. I'm getting around 7mb on a good sync.

Do you think is my MAX down speed? Shall I downgrade? I have removed the ring wire and use the Master Socket.

DSL Type: G.992.5 annex A
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 1,252 / 7,384
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [kB/kB]: 0.00 / 0.00
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12.0 / 19.0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 25.5 / 45.0
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 6.5 / 6.0
Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / BDCM
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 3,145 / 0

Don't worry it takes up to 10 days for the line to settle down. O2 do some test or something. I was getting around 2Mb for the first 10 or so days then it shot up to 15Mb and hasn't gone lower since.