Any religious people watch the Wonders of Life last night?

More irony from you! Keep it up fella!

I don't think you know what the word 'irony' means.

You claim God does not exist. You are making a factual statement. You have to back this statement up with proof. I cannot say dark matter does not exist. It may well, it may well not. But if I was to say it absolutely does not exist I would have to offer proof. Why can't you see this?


No I didn't. I said there's no evidence for the existence of god.
 
This is refering to Pharaoh who was holding God's people captive, he was an arrogant and haughty ruler, he refused to let God's people go free so God warned him of the outcome that would befall pharaoh if he chose to not free God's people. God was fair imho and gave plenty of warning, what befell pharaoh was of his own doing.

Hang on, so there are God's people and others? Who made these others? Surely the Pharoah would also be one of God's people?
 
God is a handy way of explaining things that we don't understand.
There have been Sun gods, Thunder gods, Rain gods etc
That is exactly what the bible is all about...it's authors were writing about things they didn't understand.
Genesis featured a Rainbow :) It's quite amusing really.

There is no physical evidence of God or Jesus, God has never spoken to anyone or taken over all the TV's in the world to deliver a message.

I quote:
Nothing in Christianity is original. The pre-Christian God Mithras - called the Son of God and the Light of the World - was born on December 25, died, was buried in a rock tomb, and then resurrected in three days. By the way, December 25 is also the birthday or Osiris, Adonis, and Dionysus. The newborn Krishna was presented with gold, frankincense, and myrrh. Even Christianity's weekly holy day was stolen from the pagans.

The religion will, and has already started to die out.
 
No way fella. You, like all the other atheists on this thread, emphatically declared that God does not exist.

Nope is nope is nope.

People believing in evolution does not equal people not believing in God.

You just jump to atheist as soon as someone says anything against your magic book.
 
Pic that may be considered disturbing

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I suppose these guys missed a Sunday in church?
If there is a God, consider this quote by the Greek philosopher Epicurus (341-270BC, Athens)

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
 
No way fella. You, like all the other atheists on this thread, emphatically declared that God does not exist.

I have never ever seen anything which would suggest that the concept of God is nothing more than a fictional human invention.
 
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As for me proving God, well, I really don't need to. It's a faith based system. I believe God exists.

So why are you prattling on to those who don't follow your belief to prove that God doesn't exist? If it's a system based on faith then the irony is overloading based on what you're trying to say.

On the contrary individuals like yourself should be providing proof of existence
and not the other way round.

Anyway, it's pretty obvious you're clutching at straws now and pulling out the "it's my belief" card when in the spotlight.

I'm not trying to convince you otherwise, I don't think some others are either but what we are trying to do is understand why people like you claim to be tolerant and open to choice yet display the exact opposite.
 
Pic that may be considered disturbing

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I suppose these guys missed a Sunday in church?
If there is a God, consider this quote by the Greek philosopher Epicurus (341-270BC, Athens)

That quote has been done over so many times. Free will is what makes evil possible. Can God prevent evil? Yes. But then we wouldn't have free will. If a creature is truly free it must have the ability to abuse that freedom. And that is what has made evil possible. Suffering of his creation is not Gods will, but his will has also made it possible.
 
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So why are you prattling on to those who don't follow your belief to prove that God doesn't exist? If it's a system based on faith then the irony is overloading based on what you're trying to say.

On the contrary individuals like yourself should be providing proof of existence
and not the other way round.

Anyway, it's pretty obvious you're clutching at straws now and pulling out the "it's my belief" card when in the spotlight.

I'm not trying to convince you otherwise, I don't think some others are either but what we are trying to do is understand why people like you claim to be tolerant and open to choice yet display the exact opposite.

If I was an atheist before I became a Christian how can I be completely intolerant of all other viewpoints?
 
Also, when atheists speak of God stopping evil, where do you draw the line? The murder level? The rape level? The cheating level? Or the evil thoughts level? All humans on the face of this earth are deserving punishment, so if God declared judgement today we'd all burn.
 
That quote has been done over so many times. Free will is what makes evil possible. Can God prevent evil? Yes. But then we wouldn't have free will. If a creature is truly free it must have the ability to abuse that freedom. And that is what has made evil possible. Suffering of his creation is not Gods will, but his will has also made it possible.

So followers of your God have never brought suffering to others? Right

Edit: A little clarification. I said followers because obviously a fictional character couldn't do it themselves
 
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Also, when atheists speak of God stopping evil, where do you draw the line? The murder level? The rape level? The cheating level? Or the evil thoughts level? All humans on the face of this earth are deserving punishment, so if God declared judgement today we'd all burn.

That's a touch presumptuous isnt it? Telling us hat God would and wouldn't do? Bad Christian!
 
That quote has been done over so many times. Free will is what makes evil possible. Can God prevent evil? Yes. But then we wouldn't have free will. If a creature is truly free it must have the ability to abuse that freedom. And that is what has made evil possible. Suffering of his creation is not Gods will, but his will has also made it possible.

What about the parasitic worm who's only job in life is to eat the eye balls of lambs, blinding them at best and making them die a horrible death at worst?

That isn't 'free will' but the way the worm was 'designed'. And given you don't believe in evolution you must therefore believe God created that creature specifically to inflict pain and suffering in livestock.
 
What about the parasitic worm who's only job in life is to eat the eye balls of lambs, blinding them at best and making them die a horrible death at worst?

That isn't 'free will' but the way the worm was 'designed'. And given you don't believe in evolution you must therefore believe God created that creature specifically to inflict pain and suffering in livestock.

Not just livestock. Humans too. A trip to poverty stricken areas in Africa will show you parasites boring their way through human children in the same manner.
 
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