anybody else cant watch tv with sign language

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but did anyone see the soccer AM sketch of a guy doing sign language to a music video?

Laughed like a little girl when it came on :D
 
Mr_Vengeance said:
Remember you can still watch and enjoy the program even with signing yet for many deaf people this is impossible without signing!!!
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No you can't! Mainly because there's some moron taking up 1/4 of the screen and jigging about in a brightly coloured shirt. Now that's not only distracting, but it also spoils the experience.

This is the 21st Century and we have digital TV, so why not the option to turn this off?
 
Azagoth said:
No you can't! Mainly because there's some moron taking up 1/4 of the screen and jigging about in a brightly coloured shirt. Now that's not only distracting, but it also spoils the experience.

This is the 21st Century and we have digital TV, so why not the option to turn this off?
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Why are you calling someone you have never met a 'Moron' :confused:
Personally I think the signers do a great praiseworthy job that helps bring happiness too people who can only dream about having a quality of life that you and I take for granted!
And a 1/4 of the screen! Ohh please, you do realise what a drama queen you sound like with that ridiculously exaggerated comment!!
If the signing was on telly all the time then I can start to understand/accept your anger but it's normally late at night, Sundays and more often then not on repeats that have already been aired without the signing!
I think your reaction too it makes you come across as a very selfish person if I’m being honest!!!

I do however agree with you 100% about the ability to be able to turn it off in this day and age, but this is the TV companies fault and not the signers/deaf people so perhaps you should direct your anger towards them instead:rolleyes:
 
Mr_Vengeance said:
I do however agree with you 100% about the ability to be able to turn it off in this day and age, but this is the TV companies fault and not the signers/deaf people so perhaps you should direct your anger towards them instead:rolleyes:
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I think they should be available on every program at any time of the day. Just be optional. It's not as if the technology is difficult to implement. They just missed a great opportunity with digital boxes. Just like chip and pin missed opportunities as well.
 
AcidHell2 said:
I think they should be available on every program at any time of the day. Just be optional. It's not as if the technology is difficult to implement. They just missed a great opportunity with digital boxes. Just like chip and pin missed opportunities as well.
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Not everyone has digital yet, wait till the switchover

When we used to have a TV it didn't bother me at all, somtimes I'll just be there staring at the signer trying to learn a bit of sign language.

Mr_Vengeance said:
I think your reaction too it makes you come across as a very selfish person if I’m being honest!!!
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Don't expect anything less.
 
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AcidHell2 said:
I think they should be available on every program at any time of the day. Just be optional. It's not as if the technology is difficult to implement. They just missed a great opportunity with digital boxes. Just like chip and pin missed opportunities as well.
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Agree 100%, but unfortunately as with a lot of things it boils down to $£$.
This is where the government should step in imo and force these greedy companies to take a pretty insignificant hit in profits to implement something like this.
 
manoz said:
Not everyone has digital yet, wait till the switchover
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I know, but digital uses a diffrent signal to that of terrestrial, so they could have implemented it,, but now it's to late, as far as I know they haven't implemented it within the digital boxes, so everyone would have to buy yet another one.
 
AcidHell2 said:
I know, but digital uses a diffrent signal to that of terrestrial, so they could have implemented it,, but now it's to late, as far as I know they haven't implemented it within the digital boxes, so everyone would have to buy yet another one.
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I dunno how these things work but can't they implement it at the other end?
 
manoz said:
I dunno how these things work but can't they implement it at the other end?
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Pretty sure something like this can be implement with an over-air box firmware update, if not then they were very short sighted when designing the box's it's not as if we have just suddenly started getting deaf people in society :rolleyes:
However it would not surprise me as like I said before it's all about money and they know they would never get away with charging for such a service without looking like complete ****s!

AcidHell2 said:
Nope, the box would need to be able to decode and select the info.
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They would simply put the signing stream on the same MUX as the channel but this would use bandwith which is what costs $$£
 
Mr_Vengeance said:
Pretty sure something like this can be implement with an over-air box firmware update, if not then they were very short sighted when designing the box's it's not as if we have just suddenly started getting deaf people in society :rolleyes:
However it would not surprise me as like I said before it's all about money and they know they would never get away with charging for such a service without looking like complete ****s!



They would simply put the signing stream on the same MUX as the channel but this would use bandwith which is what costs $$£
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but would normal boxes be able to read or discard that info?
It wouldn't take much bandwidth. They could start with just sub titles.
 
AcidHell2 said:
but would normal boxes be able to read or discard that info?
It wouldn't take much bandwidth. They could start with just sub titles.
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Yep, provided it's on the same MUX then it should be able too decode it with a single tuner. (Remembers back too the SECA hacking days, the joys of FREE sky:D Stick that in your pipe Murdoch and smoke it!! lol)
 
Cant concentrate on the program with someone raving at the bottom of the screen just add some glowsticks and sorted! :D
 
Just found this:

Traditionally, with signed programmes, you see a picture of a person signing in a corner of the screen. This is called open signing.

Very few programmes are signed and these are generally shown as repeats late at night. Yet over 50,000 deaf people in the UK use British Sign Language (BSL) as their first language.

Ofcom sets and monitors targets for broadcasters. The current 10-year target is for 5% of programming hours to be signed. Broadcasters are also required to raise awareness of this service and to identify signed programmes with 'SL' in on-screen TV Guides.

Today, if you go digital, you will still get just a few signed programmes. One of the problems is that open signing is expensive to produce, requiring a signer to be filmed separately from the programme. And, of course, non-users can find it intrusive on the screen.

RNID and the BBC’s Research and Development groups are working on signing technologies for digital TV and plan to publish results early in 2007. In 2006, Ofcom carried out a consultation exercise on how to meet the needs of sign language users without imposing unreasonable costs on smaller broadcasters. A working group of mainly BSL users will report to Ofcom with proposals also early in 2007.
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Hopefully this is switchable signing then everyone can be happy :D
 
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