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So far the only board that seems ok is the MSI X870E Carbon. Still expensive but seems to offer a good set of features but still some cheaper board out there.
Anyone disappointed with AM5 X870 boards?
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Its a shame the carbon doesn't include a clock generator considering its price.
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Would the manufacturers just stop production of 670 chipset, so the only route is buy the 870?
I bought this on Monday and installed yesterday: the DIY features are pretty good (e.g. quick release button for GPU, the toolless m.2 sockets) and the new bios is fun to play with.
I have "upgraded" from a X670E which was not stable despite various RAM and Bios permutations. For example, not being able to use m.2 socket 1/2 due to incompatibility, EXPO playing up. I appreciate on paper the actual upgrade is WiFi 7 and USB 4 (neither of which I require), but, given my x670E woes this has given me peace of mind.
I was thinking of ‘upgrading’ my X670 Hero to the latest version just because pcmasterrace but looking at the spec it seems like if you fill all the Nvme slots up it lowers the speed of the main PCIE slot. Which is annoying because I’m pretty sure that’s not the case on the X670E variant.
I’d imagine production of X670, X670E and B650E will be switched over to the 800 series now but it’ll probably be a while before stock drys up.
It's pretty dry on ocuk for the 600 series chipsets if you check now.
This is the best specced 800 series board by far for the price.
20 phase 110A VRM
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Quick release
High end audio
Fully loaded IO
5 M.2 which doesn’t steal lanes from the GPU
It even comes with a full metal backplate.
My basket at OcUK:
20 phase 110A VRM
Post code
Quick release
High end audio
Fully loaded IO
5 M.2 which doesn’t steal lanes from the GPU
It even comes with a full metal backplate.
My basket at OcUK:
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standarding USB 4 support is valuable for me.
not say it mitigates all the other problems identified, but this was sorely needed and a great step up from the 650/650e/670/670e mess.
i paid £220 for an X570 tomahawk in May 2020, so paying £270 for an X870 tomahawk in Sept 2024 is perhaps not surprising.
it looks like a great board, but sure, i'd be a lot happier if this mid-range board had a £200 mid-range price...
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The X570 tomahawk was on the flagship chipset though, the X870 is more akin to a B550 for this current gen.
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Hmmm, if that price for the X870E Proart holds up, I might grab that one for the new system. It doesn't need the extra power delivery for USB on my second system so I can live without that compared to the current system (X670E Proart) where I use it to quick charge up to 60w. But otherwise, that Asrock one that @Joxeon posted about also has my eye.
Primarily I'd go with the X870E only because it's got native 10g where I can WOL from and only use one ethernet connection to handle it unlike the two that I need right now to the second system. But 5g connection wouldn't be bad either and my switch handles the various ones up to 10g anyway. Although I will be upset at not being able to move multi GB files so quickly between the systems - currently the secondary rig (10g ethernet via card) is acting more as a file server for my main rig and performing AI work, so having the 10g connection is rather helpful to move stuff to and from it. Would still be fast, but since I can saturate the 10g, well, would be nice.
Primarily I'd go with the X870E only because it's got native 10g where I can WOL from and only use one ethernet connection to handle it unlike the two that I need right now to the second system. But 5g connection wouldn't be bad either and my switch handles the various ones up to 10g anyway. Although I will be upset at not being able to move multi GB files so quickly between the systems - currently the secondary rig (10g ethernet via card) is acting more as a file server for my main rig and performing AI work, so having the 10g connection is rather helpful to move stuff to and from it. Would still be fast, but since I can saturate the 10g, well, would be nice.
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Sure.
"i'd be a lot happier if this mid-range board had a £200 mid-range price..."
And i'm sure it will get there within a few months of Intels new platform launch.
I’m already seeing it being discounted so you’re probably right.
The early adopter tax is still in play. The real pricing will appear in another week or two. Possibly even faster if the uptake of X870 is weak like 9000.
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Some motherboard makers are using the front audio panel audio out as well to get the 5.1 (3 x dual) channel setup, so they can reduce the amount of ports on the back and add other stuff instead.
Just a sign of the trends unfortunately, as things are moving away from analogue 5.1 and moving to digital forms of it (HDMI, Optical, Coax, etc - and even the latter two have hard effort in phasing them out, just they're going really slowly).
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You can get surround sound including a subwoofer channel from Optical, right?
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Yep. Many support it. The only issue is the other end (before the speakers) needs its own decoder for it to work (resplit the signal back out to each speaker). And not all speakers have that built in. So it often ups the prices of stuff to keep the 5.1 setup with the old connections and better to migrate over to something complete like the HDMI ARC/EARC route.
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