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You need surround decoding, on a AVR etc to get the .1 LFE channel.
Anyone disappointed with AM5 X870 boards?
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You need surround decoding, on a AVR etc to get the .1 LFE channel.
I have just purchased Asus ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard which is an upgrade on Asus Prime X670E-Pro WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard I had since new. Not expecting a massive step up in performance but when the new AM5 3D CPUs arrive I will upgrade that part too.
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I don't think there are any VRM fans on these boards anymore. At least, not that I can see (and one would imagine for a fan, it'll need to be exposed to cool air for it to work properly) so I imagine it shouldn't be a problem if you go with the X870/E chipset boards.
I’m pretty sure there’s a fan on the Asrock ones… a VRM fan that is.
According to Asrock’s Taichi page:
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Looking at their page and on the pics everywhere, it looks like the VRM fan is hidden under the shroud for the VRM Heatsinks. Usually means it'll run loud as it'll be small and it's blowing through a highly resitrcted space under the shroud and of course it's also right above the GPU slot (warm air normally). Granted, none of the reviewers have said anything about it either, so it might be fine. But we also know that every reviewer does stuff differently, or is checking in open air setups (which of course give the fan the cool air it needs to cool better and not run as loud).
If you're really set on the Taichi, I'd wait a bit and see what others say that have it on hand. You'll likely be unable to get more than an educated guess (like here) otherwise.
Personally, I've avoided boards with VRM fans as the fans are always the loudest, or has the worse design, and/or is never easily controllable (especially when it ages as well and you're unable to clean it easily like it is here under the shroud).
Right, I’ve ended up ordering an ASRock X870E Nova on the hope that it doesn’t have the VRM fan.
It doesn’t seem to on the product landing page.
Also, the Taichi Light doesn’t seem to have the fan either (which was also mentioned in a review).
I believe the Taichi Light also lacks (compared to the full fat Taichi):
- GPU quick release
- motherboard backplate
- RGB
It doesn’t seem to on the product landing page.
Also, the Taichi Light doesn’t seem to have the fan either (which was also mentioned in a review).
I believe the Taichi Light also lacks (compared to the full fat Taichi):
- GPU quick release
- motherboard backplate
- RGB
Ah - an update from ASRock support, if people are interested (@Shaolin Chicken / @Meddling-Monk).
Ok well if it can be turned off I guess that’s OK
Ok well if it can be turned off I guess that’s OK
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What do you mean? Is it a proprietary type PCI-e sound card?
Can you just put it in one of the other PCI-e slots?
I'm hoping by the time the 9000 series X3D CPUs are released the dust will have settled on this new line-up. I don't want to drop money on X870 if there's no real advantage over X670.
Regardless on chipset, though, the cost of motherboards now is eye watering. The ASUS post on reddit detailed their X870 launch, it's $500 to get an LED debug screen. It's wild features like that, which cost pennies, are only being attached to boards that cost as much as a low end system.
Regardless on chipset, though, the cost of motherboards now is eye watering. The ASUS post on reddit detailed their X870 launch, it's $500 to get an LED debug screen. It's wild features like that, which cost pennies, are only being attached to boards that cost as much as a low end system.
From looking at all the boards pretty extensively (coming from the B550) the AsRock Nova seemed to be most well balanced board with features… for £340.
Has an LED debug screen, backplate, clear CMOS button, easy GPU release… and good lane sharing for M2 drives (not as good as Taichi at lane sharing I think, also with a smaller VRM and less capacitors + board connections, but that’s all - not really any point going Taichi if you have a simple set-up for gaming IMO, but to each their own).
Ordered already because I think they’ll be a rush when the 9800x3D comes out… now out of stock from most places.
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I should point out also a lot of the X870 boards are E-ATX size so be careful when you choose if you have a smaller case, seems motherboards are getting bigger every generation. I do have an E-ATX case but not upgrading for awhile with my 7800X3D/7900XT combo.
I guess high end models they cram it all in on E-ATX size and less on lower range models ie ATX size or lower.
I guess high end models they cram it all in on E-ATX size and less on lower range models ie ATX size or lower.
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they probably wanted fit fit as many usb ports on there as possible, and ponly made two of them 4.0 just to catch the fish looking for 4.0
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The Nova seems to have everything I'd want in a motherboard (Gen5, lots of nvme and USB, 7 segment error code display), if I was going to upgrade to AM5 now that'd be a front runner.
Although one feature I've noticed only on the Gigbyte boards (and it's a pretty niche use case, but something I've been thinking about for a while!) is they all seem to have a front HDMI port....
It's only 1080p/30Hz, but perfect if you want to do a case mod with an integrated screen (I'd previously been wondering if you could do the same with an internal USB-C header, via DP alt mode)
I've come to the conclusion though, that even though I want new shiny, my 5950x is fine for the stuff I play.
@Nitefly - regarding chipset fans, my x570-f has one, I've never noticed it spin up (although I spend most of my time far away from the PC and if I'm at my desk I'm usually gaming, so GPU/CPU fan will be louder)!
Although one feature I've noticed only on the Gigbyte boards (and it's a pretty niche use case, but something I've been thinking about for a while!) is they all seem to have a front HDMI port....
It's only 1080p/30Hz, but perfect if you want to do a case mod with an integrated screen
(I'd previously been wondering if you could do the same with an internal USB-C header, via DP alt mode)I've come to the conclusion though, that even though I want new shiny, my 5950x is fine for the stuff I play.
@Nitefly - regarding chipset fans, my x570-f has one, I've never noticed it spin up (although I spend most of my time far away from the PC and if I'm at my desk I'm usually gaming, so GPU/CPU fan will be louder)!
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X870/E was never meant to be a big upgrade over X670/E, It's basically the same chipset minus an upgrade to more USB4.
Well, yes. That combined with the increased cost is why I was expressing my disappointment. X870 is B650E with USB4. It's disappointing... is it not?
I finally figured it out. Thanks.
I have the ASUS X870E motherboard and i have to admit the LED debug screen is a useful touch. Should be standard on all high end motherboards.