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Anyone else wanting to upgrade but just can't stomach paying so much for it?

easyrider said:
So your saying people are buying 1080p monitors coming from a 1080p monitor?

What a complete and utter waste of money! lol:p
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Don't disagree with you in some ways,but remember most of the cards under £300 don't really have enough puff to drive qHD resolutions that well.

In fact Nvidia missed a beat not making some budget GSync monitors - if they had some under £200 they would fly off the shelfs.

Well sadly the vast majority of the market is at 1080P and BELOW.

Most monitors on the market are 1080P and BELOW.

If they were not selling,companies would not be making them!

The only way qHD and 4K will become standard is we start having more and more monitors under £200 with such resolutions,especially £150 and below.

The point is someone bought their last monitor and it cost £100 to £150,they will probably think of spending the same. I think only one time I saw a 4K monitor around £200 it was on some super duper special offer and it was an Acer who are not known for great CS looking on this forum.

The worst thing is plenty of cheaper 27" monitors now are 1080P not qHD!

So someone might be going from a 22" 1080P to a 27" one with the same resolution!!
 
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easyrider said:
why...I can understand if your original one died...But any other reason is just madness!!!!!
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perhaps an older none g-sync/freesync 1080p screen to a g-sync/freesync

It's very similar to what I did. I went from a 1680x1050 60Hz screen to a 1080p g-sync 144Hz screen. I kept the bump in resolution as low as possible to limit the need for a new graphics card on top
 
The improvements in graphics card performance are not really stunning at under £300. A guy wanted to replace his R9 290X which he got for £200 two years ago in another thread,and the RX480 8GB and GTX1060 6GB are not massive improvements.
 
easyrider said:
why...I can understand if your original one died...But any other reason is just madness!!!!!
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You snipped out my explaining why :p

Yes my screen needed replacing, i could not find a half decent 1440P screen for under £250 let alone under £200, i had a budget of £150, £170 at a push.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
You are on an enthusiast forum - I bought my last monitor since I am into photography and it had an expanded colour gamut. So by that extension,everybody wants an expanded gamut monitor?? I doubt it.

But if price was not so important for monitors,then why is there more sub £250 monitors overall??

Please,don't try and deflect the fact GSync is £50 to £100 more than a FreeSync monitor even at the low end - I have a Nvidia card,and for me GSync is just expensive for what it is.

The only people I know who own GSync monitors are enthusiasts. I know far more people having FreeSync monitors(even with Nvidia cards) and that is because they were looking for a sub £200 monitor and the specs looked OK.

The first £100 monitor with Displayport happened to have FreeSync.

Plus for me,both are useless since there is a lack of half decent monitors for image editing which have either functionality under £300 anyway.
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Thanks, I didn't realise this was an enthusiast forum until just now!

I am not deflecting anything, all I am saying is that for some people all that matters is the price while for others not realty. In my case Gsync was a bonus, the monitor I wanted just happened to have it.

Consider how long one uses a monitor for. Does 50 or even 100 means that much when we're talking years of use? This isn't something you pay every year ... You look at the damn thing all day, it affects your eyes so yes it makes sense to buy a very good screen. That's more important than a few extra quid.
 
easyrider said:
But upgrading means at least 1440p now in 2016 if buying a new monitor...Most people wanting a new monitor in 2016 are already on 1080p

The 1060 isnt a 1440p card a 1070 is :p

I bought an X34 Gsync 3440 x 1440p monitor and quite frankly its the best upgrade I have done to my PC...

Gaming and BF1 look incredible!

In Life if you want the best you gotta pay for it...If you want a Gibson USA guitar you gottapay...

If not get a epiphone! :p
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I went from 1440p to 4K back to 2560x1080 on the Z35. Got bored of chasing pixels...
 
~>Dg<~ said:
whats laughable about it ?

every card when its replaced by the new model sits in the same position of the end of line until these cards dropped.

the 970 for eg was 300 on launch.for decent brand it was nigh on as fast as the old titan. so its the same thing just we got gouged and the pound vs dollar got crappy.

it is too expensive.

1070 is the 970 replacement.
1080 is the 980 replacement.

they sit in same sector of the market.just the pricing doesnt.

1070 wont be worth 250 in year second hand it will be that new.more like 150.
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Lets say when the 970 came out, it was only £50, now the 980Ti was around £550-£600 when it came out, and the 1070 is around that £550-£600 980Ti performance, and has 2GB more memory, but because the 970 was only £50, the 1070, can't be anymore than that, you just couldn't make it up! :D:D:D
 
Silent_Scone said:
You'd think that was obvious but evidently not :p
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Yup :).

I've done myself before, got an upgrade in the form of a 24' coming from whatever I had back then. Still 1080p, just bigger so more screen estate.

In terms of screens we are spoilt these days. There is a lot of choice as long as you don't care about certain things.

Last upgrade, my required specs were simple, 27', 3D, 1440p, 144 hz. That was the starting point. Gsync just happened to exist on my monitor as well :)
 
Griffildur said:
Thanks, I didn't realise this was an enthusiast forum until just now!

I am not deflecting anything, all I am saying is that for some people all that matters is the price while for others not realty. In my case Gsync was a bonus, the monitor I wanted just happened to have it.

Consider how long one uses a monitor for. Does 50 or even 100 means that much when we're talking years of use? This isn't something you pay every year ... You look at the damn thing all day, it affects your eyes so yes it makes sense to buy a very good screen. That's more important than a few extra quid.
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I spent MORE on my monitor than anybody I know,and that includes the people I play LANs with it - the whole point is this is an enthusiast forum where like-minded people meet. We are on likely to spend more on these kinds of things than a lot of average gamers or computer purchasers.

OcUK,after all,is the biggest computer tech forum in the UK and for many years is the premier store for PC enthusiasts in the UK. They were one of the few to actually sell chips like the Athlon XP-M which were very hard to get,etc.

The reality is that plenty of people I know thought I was bonkers to spend nearly £300 on a monitor(and my last one was slightly more),but like I said image editing is my main focus for upgrades,and gaming is a second.

I know far more people who will spend £250 on a graphics card,than £250 to £300 on a monitor. I know far more people who would buy a £200 CPU than a £250 to £300 monitor.

I know far more people running games at 1080P. Even Steam confirms that.
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I spent MORE on my monitor than anybody I know,and that includes the people I play LANs with it - the whole point is this is an enthusiast forum where like-minded people meet. We are on likely to spend more on these kinds of things than a lot of average gamers or computer purchasers.

OcUK,after all,is the biggest computer tech forum in the UK and for many years is the premier store for PC enthusiasts in the UK. They were on of the few to actually sell chips like the Athlon XP-M which were very hard to get,etc.

The reality is that plenty of people thought I was bonkers to spend nearly £300 on a monitor(and my last one was slightly more),but like I said image editing is my main focus for upgrades,and gaming is a second.

I know far more people who will spend £250 on a graphics card,than £250 on a monitor.
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agreed, I know quite a few as well who do not even consider the monitor as something to worry about. They don't care about response time, refresh rate etc I personally don't get that but hey, it's their money and their eyes
 
Griffildur said:
agreed, I know quite a few as well who do not even consider the monitor as something to worry about. They don't care about response time, refresh rate etc I personally don't get that but hey, it's their money and their eyes
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I am hoping 4K gets cheaper and cheaper though - technically there should be perfect scaling to 1080P if your card is not fast enough,whilst giving all the advantages if you get a better card.

I do wish Nvidia supported adaptive sync too,and then developed GSync better as a higher end alternative if you are willing to pay the extra dosh.

GSync-Lite and GSync-Premium.

:D
 
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easyrider said:
Why buy the z35 and not a 60hz 3440x 1440p ?

The z35 ain't worth 700 odd quid :p
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60hz is gross. I've done the chasing pixels game, I went as far as 40" 4K, and all the way back down again. There is value there with certain applications due to the desktop real estate, but for games you don't generally stop long enough to really appreciate the density.

2560x1080 at 144hz, or 200hz on this panel if you fancy it - is fluid and looks great whilst also maintaining a solid framerate on a single card. I've wasted more money on these things than most people here I'd imagine, which is why finding a medium is important. Having the best doesn't always quantify as having the best experience.
 
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Silent_Scone said:
60hz is gross.
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3440 x 1440p at 60hz locked with a 1070 is better than 1080p ghosting fest on the z35 :p

The sweet spot is 3440x 1440 p at 100hz Gsync

My single Gtx 1080 pushes 100fps without issue at this res...

Also in windows and applications 34 inc 1080p would suck !
 
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