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Anyone just given up on looking for a new GPU?

BobShark said:
Completely agree with this. Technological innovation doesn't mean a continually increasing price trend. Without continuing improvements at a comparable cost, the majority of people will be priced out of the market within a decade regardless of what tech we are talking about here. People would simply put up with what they have rather than spending 2x/3x + for the newer bit of kit on the basis the manufacturer needs to recoup dev costs, diluting the pool of potential customers even further for the manufacturer.

There is a finite amount of £ that companies can continue to squeeze from their customers before the value proposition falls apart and people realise it just isn't worth investing in as much as they have previously. A good example is the high end phone market, apart from the very top end I think apple, samsung etc have realised they can't continue squeezing any more without sacrificing volume shipped so have designed their product stack to be more affordable.

It's clear as day Turing, particularly 2080ti, was an exercise in squeezing as much cash as NV could out of people who were desperate for something new after being stuck with Pascal for what felt like an age.

I agree NV could have comfortably priced 3080 @ £749 but given the competition from AMD on the desktop and in console I think they priced it correctly. It's the external factors to this, primarily COVID related production difficulties, mining and scalping, which have ****** it for everyone.
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3080 at £749 would be crossing the limit. Then the AIB cards would cost £1,000 plus. This is leading up to covid prices . I have used all these cards and can say fair pricing should be:

3070 - £250
3080 - £495
3090 - £650

:rolleyes:
Then people can spend good money on motherboards and cpus , cases etc and build a good gaming rig. Also they can but games as well.
 
Sarge2255 said:
3080 at £749 would be crossing the limit. Then the AIB cards would cost £1,000 plus. This is leading up to covid prices . I have used all these cards and can say fair pricing should be:

3070 - £250
3080 - £495
3090 - £650

:rolleyes:
Then people can spend good money on motherboards and cpus , cases etc and build a good gaming rig. Also they can but games as well.
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People are buying and building gaming rigs whilst prices are sky high, until supply ever outstrips demand, dream on with those prices. Not that i'd be dissappointed with that cost, im just more realistic.
 
Over the course of 2 years all those prices can come into line, one day you will be saying you dont want it at any price. Is intel making a gpu card going to be important I wonder, I assume its just for business use
~>Dg<~ said:
bitcoin is falling like a stone now. lets see how the gpus come in stock all of a sudden. :p
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This process takes all this year pretty much. a lot of prices can recede as people stuck inside can go do other stuff I presume this helps general chip backlogs unwind.
 
Sarge2255 said:
3080 at £749 would be crossing the limit. Then the AIB cards would cost £1,000 plus. This is leading up to covid prices . I have used all these cards and can say fair pricing should be:

3070 - £250
3080 - £495
3090 - £650

:rolleyes:
Then people can spend good money on motherboards and cpus , cases etc and build a good gaming rig. Also they can but games as well.
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Whilst I'd love to see cards at those prices and agree that is what they probably should be worth, I don't think they were ever going to happen.

Exception being 3090, which is virtually a titan and especially with 24GB VRAM. We know titans have never been sub £1k at launch. I expect to get my pants pulled down for the very top end though, it's always been that way.
 
silversurfer said:
Over the course of 2 years all those prices can come into line, one day you will be saying you dont want it at any price. Is intel making a gpu card going to be important I wonder, I assume its just for business use


This process takes all this year pretty much. a lot of prices can recede as people stuck inside can go do other stuff I presume this helps general chip backlogs unwind.
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this is the lowest price in one year and still falling. its the main reason cards are showing up in stores now for the last week. hopefully it carries on. so even more are about and gouging prices go down.
 
Dazjm said:
People are buying and building gaming rigs whilst prices are sky high, until supply ever outstrips demand, dream on with those prices. Not that i'd be dissappointed with that cost, im just more realistic.
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I also think those prices are unrealistic BUT

Now that returns from mining are so... uncertain... it should be noted that GPUs are once again sitting on shelves.

Conclusion: only some people were willing to build gaming PCs at those prices. The stock was mostly bought at those prices by a) dedicated miners or b) those who thought they could negate some of the cost by mining part-time.

Without mining, they are sitting on the shelves a lot more.

I've been watching the various 6700XT models sit around not selling at £800.
 
FoxEye said:
I also think those prices are unrealistic BUT

Now that returns from mining are so... uncertain... it should be noted that GPUs are once again sitting on shelves.

Conclusion: only some people were willing to build gaming PCs at those prices. The stock was mostly bought at those prices by a) dedicated miners or b) those who thought they could negate some of the cost by mining part-time.

Without mining, they are sitting on the shelves a lot more.

I've been watching the various 6700XT models sit around not selling at £800.
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I do wonder if they are selling but stocks are high
 
4k4uNuNu said:
Why does technical improvement mean they stay the same price?
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Making a given amount of money do more than previous generations (when adjusted for inflation) is kind of the hallmark of true innovation.

This is why an "average" car today performs better than a ridiculously-expensive car from 50 years ago.

In the context of GPU's, more performance at a given price point has been the norm for progress...well, up until Turing at least.
 
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~>Dg<~ said:
bitcoin is falling like a stone now. lets see how the gpus come in stock all of a sudden. :p
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FoxEye said:
I also think those prices are unrealistic BUT

Now that returns from mining are so... uncertain... it should be noted that GPUs are once again sitting on shelves.

Conclusion: only some people were willing to build gaming PCs at those prices. The stock was mostly bought at those prices by a) dedicated miners or b) those who thought they could negate some of the cost by mining part-time.

Without mining, they are sitting on the shelves a lot more.

I've been watching the various 6700XT models sit around not selling at £800.
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Spot on! If the mining is less profitable the GPU would just sit there loosing money. So they will sell for the used price, which is around half msrp ;)

Also, less i****s will start scalping the cards and etailers / AIBs will follow suit. Although etailers will hold out the longest until the FOMO kicks in.
 
Competitor to OCUK selling an AMD 6800 as described below for £600, seen it all now

Powercolor Radeon RX 6800 16GB GDDR6 Ray-Tracing Graphics Card, RDNA2, 3840 Streams, 1700MHz GPU, 2105MHz Boost
No display / not booting
The card was rejected at the supplier due to a small crack on PCB (see 3rd pic)
Warranty sticker intact
PLEASE BE AWARE WHEN BUYING NO RETURNS / REFUNDS THIS IS SOLD AS FAULTY FOR PARTS
 
ASMB said:
Competitor to OCUK selling an AMD 6800 as described below for £600, seen it all now

Powercolor Radeon RX 6800 16GB GDDR6 Ray-Tracing Graphics Card, RDNA2, 3840 Streams, 1700MHz GPU, 2105MHz Boost
No display / not booting
The card was rejected at the supplier due to a small crack on PCB (see 3rd pic)
Warranty sticker intact
PLEASE BE AWARE WHEN BUYING NO RETURNS / REFUNDS THIS IS SOLD AS FAULTY FOR PARTS
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Blimey for 600 quid !
 
Who purchases a busted card for £600 unless you're really good on repairs but a broken PCB? How skilful is one for repairing a PCB?
 
ASMB said:
Competitor to OCUK selling an AMD 6800 as described below for £600, seen it all now

Powercolor Radeon RX 6800 16GB GDDR6 Ray-Tracing Graphics Card, RDNA2, 3840 Streams, 1700MHz GPU, 2105MHz Boost
No display / not booting
The card was rejected at the supplier due to a small crack on PCB (see 3rd pic)
Warranty sticker intact
PLEASE BE AWARE WHEN BUYING NO RETURNS / REFUNDS THIS IS SOLD AS FAULTY FOR PARTS
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:cry::cry::cry::cry:

More than the actual RRP for a broken card?!
 
I feel sorry for the buyers getting 3080 Ti’s at jacked up retail prices.

I had so many in my basket but not worth the £1.5k - £1.7k asking price. At least it was good to see so many models in stock for longer than a few minutes.

But if they were bought up by scalpers… good luck to them.. the bay prices are struggling to make a decent profit lol.
 
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