Anyone just given up on looking for a new GPU?

[Zarax]

AMD's lottery took 15 minutes to run ouf of cards instead of 10 this time, I wonder if it's any sign of good news...

 

[MCFC_ANDY]

no value in this gen, unless your extremely lucky and nab a founders card, in my eyes this gen is done for value, on upside with eth about to go pos middle next yr, should be a glut of used cards about not forgetting those upgrading to late 2022 next gen gpu's should add to the used market. so would guess another yr should see prices dip my 0.0000001%. if lucky

 

[Harlequin]

Horrible price. The card should be exactly that, an entry level dGPU its basically bottom of the bin rejects - if the 6600XT was never worth £400 then this non XT is a sad little device. Should be £300 max.

AMD msrp is £329 - anything above that is from the AIB, distributors and retailers themselves.

 

[GAC]

and theres the issue. its a £200 card going for over £400.

yes there are multiple reasons for the prices being where they are but end of the day its massively overpriced from amd onwards. and yes they are a business and have to make money not disputing that, but with both nvidia and amd making record profit margins you cant sit there and blame everyone else but amd.

 

[Harlequin]

and theres the issue. its a £200 card going for over £400.

yes there are multiple reasons for the prices being where they are but end of the day its massively overpriced from amd onwards. and yes they are a business and have to make money not disputing that, but with both nvidia and amd making record profit margins you cant sit there and blame everyone else but amd.

Its not a £200 card , thats the next tier down

 

[Joxeon]

AMD msrp is £329 - anything above that is from the AIB, distributors and retailers themselves.

Even at £329 it's poor value considering you can buy a series S and 12 months game pass for less if you want 1080P gaming.

 

[Harlequin]

Even at £329 it's poor value considering you can buy a series S and 12 months game pass for less if you want 1080P gaming.

And Nvidia competing product is also just under £400 - the RTX 3060FE doesnt exist and the last time the 3060Ti `dropped` was over 3 weeks ago in tiny quantities.

 

[Joxeon]

And Nvidia competing product is also just under £400 - the RTX 3060FE doesnt exist and the last time the 3060Ti `dropped` was over 3 weeks ago in tiny quantities.

So when was the last time AMD cards dropped at MSRP?

 

[Harlequin]

So when was the last time AMD cards dropped at MSRP?

All the time, but Digital River do not sell to the UK.

 

[gpuerrilla]

Even at £329 it's poor value considering you can buy a series S and 12 months game pass for less if you want 1080P gaming.

Yeah, have to disagree with you @Harlequin - if the XT versions went for that on their respective releases, you cant expect the gimped version to release at a higher price than that im afraid. Even the biggest of AMD die hard's will have to concede the nonsense in that!

 

[g67575]

I'm seeing the option to pre-order on Overclockers for some models, maybe that's a good sign, in terms of stock/availability.

 

[Alan McFall]

I'm seeing the option to pre-order on Overclockers for some models, maybe that's a good sign, in terms of stock/availability.

Or they've realised that they are just going to sit on the shelf if they buy them at the current prices... they have invested £££ on the cards that are already sat on the shelves.

 

[nthlord]

and theres the issue. its a £200 card going for over £400.

yes there are multiple reasons for the prices being where they are but end of the day its massively overpriced from amd onwards. and yes they are a business and have to make money not disputing that, but with both nvidia and amd making record profit margins you cant sit there and blame everyone else but amd.

Redditors have been demanding and upvoting in droves the RX 6600 non XT should be 150-200USD.

The middle ground is £250-£280 tops is fair for 1080 to 1080Ti performance and it also sits closer to a RTX 2060 Super.

Sadly, Nvidia saw the error of their ways when then they last gave us flagship performance in the form of the GTX 8800GT 512MB at a cheap as chips price.

I wouldn't get my hopes up for 3080Ti performance to be trickled down to 200 quid in a couple of gens.

 

[Joxeon]

£400 for a card that performs about the same as a 5700 non XT which released for around £350 over 2 years ago on what was at the time a new bleeding edge 7nm node and could be picked up for as little as £300 a few months after release.

 

[Harlequin]

£400 for a card that performs about the same as a 5700 non XT which released for around £350 over 2 years ago on what was at the time a new bleeding edge 7nm node and could be picked up for as little as £300 a few months after release.

or the RTX 3060 which performs about as well as the GTX 1070 and can be had for similar money at the fictional msrp, or 100% for ones actually on the shelf. Comparisons can be made for both teams.


@Th0nt, no i agree, its just using msrp as an example of actual pricing is stupid, as the cards are mythical - 39 days since the last FE card `drop` for the 3080. Thats not availability its feeding scraps to the masses. When the 3080 relaunches with 12gb as an FE card , it`ll be a lot more money as well. Nv (and Intel and AMD) all want a larger slice of the cake and eat it.

 

[Joxeon]

or the RTX 3060 which performs about as well as the GTX 1070 and can be had for similar money at the fictional msrp, or 100% for ones actually on the shelf. Comparisons can be made for both teams.


@Th0nt, no i agree, its just using msrp as an example of actual pricing is stupid, as the cards are mythical - 39 days since the last FE card `drop` for the 3080. Thats not availability its feeding scraps to the masses. When the 3080 relaunches with 12gb as an FE card , it`ll be a lot more money as well. Nv (and Intel and AMD) all want a larger slice of the cake and eat it.

The 3060 is quite a bit faster than a 1070 so not sure what benchmarks your looking at.

While the MSRP is mythical currently and Gpus are instead valued by hash rate the fact that AMD themselves value the 6600 as a $330 card is quite worrying in the long run when traditionally they have offered better VFM than Nvidia yet now offer less and slower VRAM a cut down PCIE interface, smaller die and generally a cheaper PCB for the same MSRP as the 3060 and the same can be said about the 6600XT which is only priced $20 less than the 3060ti yet is a tier behind in performance while having the same cut down feature set as the non XT.

 

[Alan McFall]

or the RTX 3060 which performs about as well as the GTX 1070 and can be had for similar money at the fictional msrp, or 100% for ones actually on the shelf. Comparisons can be made for both teams.

I know you don't honestly believe that.

 

[Harlequin]

The 3060 is quite a bit faster than a 1070 so not sure what benchmarks your looking at.

While the MSRP is mythical currently and Gpus are instead valued by hash rate the fact that AMD themselves value the 6600 as a $330 card is quite worrying in the long run when traditionally they have offered better VFM than Nvidia yet now offer less and slower VRAM a cut down PCIE interface, smaller die and generally a cheaper PCB for the same MSRP as the 3060 and the same can be said about the 6600XT which is only priced $20 less than the 3060ti yet is a tier behind in performance while having the same cut down feature set as the non XT.

I do agree about the RX 6600 - it is overpriced (and even more so now after launch) , the same goes for the £500 RTX 3060 - literally wtf at that price. RTX 3060Ti are starting at £650 ▷ Zotac GeForce RTX 3060Ti Twin Edge LHR 8GB GD… | OcUK (overclockers.co.uk) ; the msrp drop was on the 23/09 and the stock lasted seconds.

Edit - video was before the card was even released, ffs.

 

[Harlequin]

I know you don't honestly believe that.

See video link above , was the first i found when i did a google search ; granted looking at more data, take Destiny 2 - the 3060 is near 80% faster. However, it isnt universally the case (as in any card comparisons) as from teh video above.

 

[gpuerrilla]

@Th0nt, no i agree, its just using msrp as an example of actual pricing is stupid, as the cards are mythical - 39 days since the last FE card `drop` for the 3080. Thats not availability its feeding scraps to the masses. When the 3080 relaunches with 12gb as an FE card , it`ll be a lot more money as well. Nv (and Intel and AMD) all want a larger slice of the cake and eat it.

Yeah we know they (especially the 3080 as numbers qty stock never are enough) are hard to come by and basing all the available GPU's is a better metric because people are buying them and those prices are way way higher than some are letting on they bought them for. We also know people should have just gone with the 3090 if the 3080 wasnt enough grunt for them. Waiting for a Ti model ten months later for almost 3090FE price was stupid especially as its LHR locked. I mean that's almost proven to be a complete waste of time too!

RTX 3060Ti are starting at £650the msrp drop was on teh 23/09 and the stock lasted seconds.

Yeah a 3060Ti selling for the price of a 3080FE is way out of whack! Baffling.