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Anyone just given up on looking for a new GPU?

philo-sofa said:
Broadly it's just supply and demand. Supply is actually up (they shipped more GPUs than ever in 2021) but demand is also up, from normal consumers and miners.

So specifically it's how much we want GPUs given how bored we've been, and how much miners want(ed?) GPUs.
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It was a managed shortage to DIY builders IMHO - companies just diverted more supply to miners,and laptop/desktop companies. Its why I noticed for several months it wasn't that hard to find a decently specced sub £1000 gaming desktop or laptop. Even some of the miners realised that and tried to mine on gaming laptops.

In 2020 we had a true shortage,but with so many people and companies having WFH infrastructure in place by 2021,and the world opening up,I have a feeling gamers might have somewhat not helped their own situation by paying beyond the odds.
 
gpuerrilla said:
I couldnt believe how tiny the core was under the heatsinks!!
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It is a smaller GPU than the one in the RX560. Hence,this is really an RX560 replacement. So great it can almost match an RX5500XT but AMD made sure it was priced about the same. It is like the RTX3050,which is really a GTX1650 Super replacement. So in all these cases,you could argue the RRP is probably about 30% to 50% higher than it needs to be,let alone street prices!

I am just concerned BOTH AMD and Nvidia will try a Turing kind of move with the RX7000 and RTX4000 series dGPUs,and we have a further inflation in price.Turing was Nvidia trying to normalise the pricing from the 2018 crypto boom during a non-crypto boom period.

Realistically only if Intel wants to do some contrarevenue and sort of want to shake up the market,will something change. If they decide to join in,the next generation is going to be more of the same! :(
 
Yes that is a sad reality that is likely what they are planning out. People need to do what they did with Turing and not buy them, many a gamer held onto the 10 series as it was not appealing which is why nvidia loved the miners in the first place as they were the only ones buying the overly priced 20 series before the supers bailed them out.
 
gpuerrilla said:
Yes that is a sad reality that is likely what they are planning out. People need to do what they did with Turing and not buy them, many a gamer held onto the 10 series as it was not appealing which is why nvidia loved the miners in the first place as they were the only ones buying the overly priced 20 series before the supers bailed them out.
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As I said many a time on here,these companies look at PCMR enthusiasts and gamers who build their own PCs,as a high margin market. If you have looked at the market since the HD5000/GTX500 series,there have been a few big price bumps,which is why we went from sub £700(with inflation being factored into the pricing of the GTX580) being the most you paid for a highend dGPU,to the same equivalents being closer to £1500~£2000 nowadays(the TI and Titan GPUs). All it has done has pushed up the pricing of the entry level and mainstream dGPUs. I think a few were mocked on here when they suggested a 50 series dGPU would be over £200 and a 60 series dGPU over £300(the midrange 106 series GPUs and the AMD equivalent),but its happened within a few years.

It was easy to predict as they were following the Apple/Samsung phone pricing model which did the same,until Chinese companies brought them down to earth a bit.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
As I said many a time on here,these companies look at PCMR enthusiasts and gamers who build their own PCs,as a high margin market. If you have looked at the market since the HD5000/GTX500 series,there have been a few big price bumps,which is why we went from sub £700(with inflation being factored into the pricing of the GTX580) being the most you paid for a highend dGPU,to the same equivalents being closer to £1500~£2000 nowadays(the TI and Titan GPUs). All it has done has pushed up the pricing of the entry level and mainstream dGPUs. I think a few were mocked on here when they suggested a 50 series dGPU would be over £200 and a 60 series dGPU over £300(the midrange 106 series GPUs and the AMD equivalent),but its happened within a few years.

It was easy to predict as they were following the Apple/Samsung phone pricing model which did the same,until Chinese companies brought them down to earth a bit.
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But the best buy is the Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB that offers pretty much 95% of the performance of the $1000 RX 6900 XT 16 GB for only $650..
 
4K8KW10 said:
But the best buy is the Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB that offers pretty much 95% of the performance of the $1000 RX 6900 XT 16 GB for only $650..
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Except you can't find any of those prices - basically all the releases post late 2020 have been overpriced.

gpuerrilla said:
If only that were possible. Instead you have sale discount 6900XT's costing the same as regular 6800XT's. Would have been interesting to see how much more AMD would have sold if they bothered with a proper UK reseller drip feeding MSRP.
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Or the RX6700XT even.
 
This is the reason why I am staying without a personal desktop computer for months now. Not going to pay 100% over the MSRP. Better to stay offline :D
The bubble will explode, don't worry.

The greatest blessing is the bitcoin mining market crash.
 
gpuerrilla said:
Yeah I cannot fathom how they creep over £800. As I rarely see them listed for below £750 I can only wince at people paying a grand for one.
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Its not even great at mining AFAIK!

4K8KW10 said:
This is the reason why I am staying without a personal desktop computer for months now. Not going to pay 100% over the MSRP. Better to stay offline :D
The bubble will explode, don't worry.

The greatest blessing is the bitcoin mining market crash.
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Sometimes its good to have a backup dGPU just in case. Mine is a slightly wonky GTX960.

The worst thing is the RRPs were not even super cheap in late 2020!
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Sometimes its good to have a backup dGPU just in case. Mine is a slightly wonky GTX960.

The worst thing is the RRPs were not even super cheap in late 2020!
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Even that is not possible in my country. Tried with a RX 560, actually my laptop's RX 560X ended with the same performance.
Returned the card to the shop.

Not going to bother with a 6500 XT for 300 euros... that is available in Germany...

Crazy world we live in...

Maybe run by psychopaths recently...
 
4K8KW10 said:
Even that is not possible in my country. Tried with a RX 560, actually my laptop's RX 560X ended with the same performance.
Returned the card to the shop.

Not going to bother with a 6500 XT for 300 euros... that is available in Germany...

Crazy world we live in...

Maybe run by psychopaths recently...
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When you have the same large investment funds being signficant "investors" in AMD,Intel and Nvidia they are pushing for more and more short termism. The pandemic is great for them - just blame all the cost increases on that. Tech is doing very well out of this,as are shipping companies:
https://fortune.com/2021/12/03/shipping-container-record-profit-supply-chain-breakdown/

So like war profiteers,these are human malware profiteers.

Basically a quick buck mentality and they wonder why countries with longer term outlooks have encroached on our turf over the last 40 years. In the end the only way is for consumers to not buy,or pay the least possible and a start would not be paying above the RRPs.
 
Just browsing a competitor and was surprised to see they actually have a lot of cards in stock... 3080ti, 3070, 3060ti etc. High prices obviously but it seems you can actually buy these cards now.
 
HangTime said:
Just browsing a competitor and was surprised to see they actually have a lot of cards in stock... 3080ti, 3070, 3060ti etc. High prices obviously but it seems you can actually buy these cards now.
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Yes, the mining market crash means lower demand from them and the cards somehow reappeared for the normal gamers...
 
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